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    #11
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Wow bong, ya got me. I apologize for everything. Lets all be nice to bong, I'd feel bad if he starts crying and shorts out his keyboard. And when those iranian tanks get to your town you will, too.
    \"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.

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    #12
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    Actions speak louder then words.
    Hitler DID kill jews.
    The pope may have said it, but there is no evidence he acted upon it.
    Every time I hear some white supremest say that the holocaust was exaggerated, I want to drive a wooden steak through their impure heart...
    Thank you Billion.....
    you are right.


    Bill.....Listen.... the president of Iran is going to Nuke them. he said he was.


    The pres Of Iran is a Holocaust denier.......put a steak through his heart and all that support him.


    Hitler killed 6 million jews.... there is 6 million jews in Isreal right now....

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    #13
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by andruejaysin
    Wow bong, ya got me. I apologize for everything. Lets all be nice to bong, I'd feel bad if he starts crying and shorts out his keyboard. And when those iranian tanks get to your town you will, too.
    Dumbass....There will never be Irainian Taks here in colorado. Duhhhhhh


    They will Nuke Isreal, and mabey a Long range Missle to the east coast.

    if the detonate a nuke 100 miles above the ground....life will end as we know it.

    Guys what if they nuked....televiv, London, and NYC. what would happen

    do we just want to watch it like it Fight club?

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    #14
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    Unfortunately, it's the liberals who will have to deal with a threat on American soil. All the death hungry conservatives have too much to talk about in other countries to really focus on their own.
    Want a fine example? 9/11 = attack another country + minimal time spent trying to defend our own country. I guess they figure if they kick a weaker countries ass, it will trick the stronger countries (North Korea) into NOT attacking us. Man that's a genius plan.
    once they brough the fight to american soil we had to do something...


    My point is

    Saddam was a bad Man...unstable. Better than right now? better than the way it could be...NO

    We need afghanistan and Iraq for stratigic position On IRAn...look at the map.

    Keep an Open Mind Bill

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    #15
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bong30
    once they brough the fight to american soil we had to do something
    But we didn't. Instead we attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Now you want to attack another, also having nothing to do with 9/11. Just because you caught syphilis from an iranian prostitute does not justify a war.
    \"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.

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    #16
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Sorry, I was was confused for a minute, it was hitler who caught syph from a jewish hooker. After awhile all nazis start to look alike.
    \"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.

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    #17
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    My mind is very open.
    I see that...keep trying. you have been brain washed and you dont even know it. not a dig.

    The world isn't some big game of chess, Bong. There are more than just "pieces" that get lost in war.

    yes I know that...come on. Kinda like chess though.


    Are you so full of yourself and your political party that you really believe that our country cannot prosper without attacking other countries?

    What political Party? NOT LEFT OR RIGHT right or wrong! Im an independent conseritive not...republican.....


    Defense is one thing, attack is another.

    Some times the best deffence is a good offence

    If America had a focused defense, 9/11 would never have happened.

    Maybe maybe not?
    Even now we're open to attacks.

    Yes cause were are affraid to call it like we see it PC is going to kill us.

    You know why? Because our government thinks that war is the only way.

    We didnt go to war after the Cole, WTC attack #1....it was time Bill


    So what if Saddam is a bad man? There are lots of bad men out there, but it doesn't mean that it is America's responsibility to put them down.

    I agree,,,,,,,BUT, IF NOT US THAN WHO? IF NOT NOW THEN WHEN?


    I'd rather make sure there was absolutely no way for that kind of evil to get into our country, rather than send our own sons and daughters out to meet it.
    I agree first place is to get rid of all the madrasass (brought here by the saudis) in the USA that teach Christians are Apes and pigs....
    If America would stay out of other peoples business, nobody would have a reason to hate us.
    Dead wrong....We are Infidels....please learn that

    Let the world rot in it's hate, let America prosper in it's love.

    That is where Liberism is a mental disorder....Love? tell them that

    Take care Bill:thumbsup:

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    #18
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    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by andruejaysin
    Sorry, I was was confused for a minute, it was I who caught syph from a jewish hooker.

    Nasty EG.....:dance:

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    PLease bold you stuff...i got about 2/3 through and my eyes gave out


    your are right im dumb.....






    what does that make you guys?

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Democrats,terrorists and 'brotherly way'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bong30
    NO idiot, the Nazi is the president of Iran......


    you would have been one of the guys that said Hitller was missunderstood...right?

    Orielly is a Talking head.......Thats it


    he is not making NUKes......the president of Iran is, and said he was going to Kill the Jews.


    I don't remember hear Bill saying he was going to kill the Jews....man you are stupid

    The president of Iran holds little power in the country. His job is to basically enforce the laws of the "Leader". True power there is in the hands of the Ayatollahs.

    And I ask you why arn't the jews living in Iran that afraid of there government?


    Iran's proud but discreet Jews
    By Frances Harrison
    BBC News, Tehran



    Although Iran and Israel are bitter enemies, few know that Iran is home to the largest number of Jews anywhere in the Middle East outside Israel.
    About 25,000 Jews live in Iran and most are determined to remain no matter what the pressures - as proud of their Iranian culture as of their Jewish roots.

    It is dawn in the Yusufabad synagogue in Tehran and Iranian Jews bring out the Torah and read the ancient text before making their way to work.

    It is not a sight you would expect in a revolutionary Islamic state, but there are synagogues dotted all over Iran where Jews discreetly practise their religion.

    "Because of our long history here we are tolerated," says Jewish community leader Unees Hammami, who organised the prayers.

    He says the father of Iran's revolution, Imam Khomeini, recognised Jews as a religious minority that should be protected.

    As a result Jews have one representative in the Iranian parliament.

    "Imam Khomeini made a distinction between Jews and Zionists and he supported us," says Mr Hammami.

    'Anti-Jewish feeling'

    In the Yusufabad synagogue the announcements are made in Persian - most Iranian Jews don't really speak Hebrew well.

    Jews have lived in Persia for nearly 3,000 years - the descendants of slaves from Babylon saved by Cyrus the Great.

    Over the centuries there have been sporadic purges, pogroms and forced conversions to Islam as well as periods of peaceful co-existence.

    These days anti-Jewish feeling is periodically stirred by the media.


    Whatever they say abroad is lies - we are comfortable in Iran - if you're not political and don't bother them then they won't bother you
    Hersel Gabriel

    Mr Hammami says state-run television confuses Zionism and Judaism so that "ordinary people may think that whatever the Israelis do is supported by all Jews".

    During the fighting in Lebanon a hardline weekly newspaper, Yalesarat, published two photographs of synagogues on its front page full of people waving Israeli flags celebrating Israeli independence day.

    The paper falsely said the synagogues were in Iran - even describing one as the Yusufabad synagogue in Tehran and locating another in Shiraz.

    "This provoked a number of opportunists in Shiraz," explains Iran's Jewish MP, Maurice Mohtamed, "and there was an assault on two synagogues."

    Mr Mohtamed says the incident was defused by the Iranian security forces, who explained to people that the news was not true.

    And with the coming to power of an ultra-conservative like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, there has been increased concern internationally about the fate of Iranian Jews.

    'Holocaust denial'

    Mr Ahmedinejad has repeatedly used rabid anti-Israeli rhetoric - slogans like "wipe Israel off the map" - and most controversially he has questioned the number killed in the Holocaust during World War II.

    Mr Mohtamed has been outspoken in his condemnation of the president's views - in itself a sign that there is some space for Jews in Iran to express themselves.


    "It's very regrettable to see a horrible tragedy so far reaching as the Holocaust being denied ... it was a very big insult to Jews all around the world," says Mr Mohtamed, who has also strongly condemned the exhibition of cartoons about the Holocaust organised by an Iranian newspaper owned by the Tehran municipality.

    Despite the offence Mahmoud Ahmedinejad has caused to Jews around the world, his office recently donated money for Tehran's Jewish hospital.

    It is one of only four Jewish charity hospitals worldwide and is funded with money from the Jewish diaspora - something remarkable in Iran where even local aid organisations have difficulty receiving funds from abroad for fear of being accused of being foreign agents.

    Most of the patients and staff are Muslim these days, but director Ciamak Morsathegh is Jewish.

    "Anti-Semitism is not an eastern phenomenon, it's not an Islamic or Iranian phenomenon - anti-Semitism is a European phenomenon," he says, arguing that Jews in Iran even in their worst days never suffered as much as they did in Europe.

    Israeli family ties

    But there are legal problems for Jews in Iran - if one member of a Jewish family converts to Islam he can inherit all the family's property.

    Jews cannot become army officers and the headmasters of the Jewish schools in Tehran are all Muslim, though there is no law that says this should be so.

    But their greatest vulnerability is their links to Israel - where many Jews have relatives.

    Seven years ago a group of Jews in the southern city of Shiraz was accused of spying for Israel - eventually they were all released. But today many Iranian Jews travel to and from Iran's enemy Israel.


    In one of Tehran's six remaining kosher butcher's shops, everyone has relatives in Israel.

    In between chopping up meat, butcher Hersel Gabriel tells me how he expected problems when he came back from Israel, but in fact the immigration officer didn't say anything to him.

    "Whatever they say abroad is lies - we are comfortable in Iran - if you're not political and don't bother them then they won't bother you," he explains.

    His customer, middle-aged housewife Giti agrees, saying she can easily talk to her two sons in Tel Aviv on the telephone and visit them.

    "It's not a problem coming and going; I went to Israel once through Turkey and once through Cyprus and it was not problem at all," she says.

    Gone are the early days of the Iranian revolution when Jews - and many Muslims - found it hard to get passports to travel abroad.

    "In the last five years the government has allowed Iranian Jews to go to Israel freely, meet their families and when they come back they face no problems," says Mr Mohtamed.

    He says there is also a way for Iranian Jews who emigrated to Israel decades ago to return to Iran and see their families.

    "They can now go to the Iranian consul general in Istanbul and get Iranian identity documents and freely come to Iran," he says.

    The exodus of Jews from Iran seems to have slowed down - the first wave was in the 1950s and the second was in the wake of the Iranian Revolution.

    Those Jews who remain in Iran seem to have made a conscious decision to stay put.

    "We are Iranian and we have been living in Iran for more than 3,000 years," says the Jewish hospital director Ciamak Morsathegh.

    "I am not going to leave - I will stay in Iran under any conditions," he declares.

    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...st/5367892.stm

    Published: 2006/09/22 06:46:50 GMT

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