Hello everyone...

BTW bulbs dont put out watts, they put out lumens.
Exactly right :thumbsup: ... Light Output is measured in lumens.

So your first comment the 250W bulb for 20. Can i assume that 250W is the output, not the acctual wattage.
Like you said earlier in your post , Light output is measured in lumens, not wattage. My bulbs for veg (now as side lighting) are 85W truetone 5000k bulbs that replace 250W incandescents. My "output" is 5000avg lumens.

here are the bulbs i am talking about
http://www.1000bulbs.com/products.ph...t-Fluorescents
HIGHMAX by Maxilte - 200 Watt - 5000 Kelvin - Compact Fluorescent - 200W/UT/MOG/50K - 277 Volt - Maxlite 35873 - $78.25

Manufactured By: Maxlite
Manufactures Part Number:35873
Manufacturers Description: SKO200EA250 8U 277V E39 HPF
Lumins: 12000
Scotopic Lumens: 23,520
Efficacy (LM/W) 60
Life Hours: 10,000
Width: 5.12 in.
Measure of Over All Length: 14in.
Approximate Incandescent Equivalent: 850 Watts
Save 650 Watts in Energy
Mogul Base
277 Volt
Color or Hue = Stark White, 5000 Kelvin
ENERGY STAR Rating Pending
Catalog Code: FC200/35873


Those are the specs of the bulbs you are talking about.

They produce 12,000 lumens-for $80
My bulbs produce 5000 lumens for $20

For $80 you could get 4 of mine- producing 20,000 lumens...

if cost is an issue...:thumbsup: