So then Harris I guess all of the discussion and grow reports that I have seen here and elsewhere on CFL's are done by people who are just selling themselves short using the smaller CFL's ? Notably the sticky thread entitled "Compact Flourescent Light Discussion" started by BobBong ? I am with you though, I am gonna hold out a lil while longer to get the real deal. Might as well go full bore and maybe the yield will help pay for the light.