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[chill_out]

I've had some of that gritty green and looks nothing like the pictures,my m8 took some over to the dam and got it tested by some head gardner there who claims it's microfidre sand.This is added to stop it drying out and to add more weight to the deals.Now if this is true about the above surely if this was really harmful the goverment would release a statement warning people of it.So if this is the only thing i can get i'll carry on smoking it until i'm warned about it.

Ok someones bound to come on here and say the gov wouldn't warn you about,cause they will if there's some bad coke ect they warn you so why wouldn't they do the same about green

[paddyahern]

If the "sand" is being set on fire, won't it melt? It'll just turn into mucus then, which can be coughed up easily.

Anyways, Silicosis happens in mining operations, building sites etc. where silicon is present. The difference here is that the workers are breathing in huge amounts of the particles in the atmosphere. We are smoking them, I'm pretty sure it's not as dangerous as it's being made out to be.

That's even if the dust is sand or silicone.

Silica is present in the cell walls of many plants, Cannabis included. So wheither your grass is "spiked" or not, your smoking silica and have been your whole toking career.

"To the naked eye it looks like high quality cannabis, but when smoked it leaves a residue of fine sand. "
http://forum.tdpf.org.uk/forum/viewt...e7ec9dc1e76497

Even if that residue get's in your lungs, it will ge caught in the mucus.

The whole thing is a joke. With no evidence at all people are scaremongering.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

If the "sand" is being set on fire, won't it melt? It'll just turn into mucus then, which can be coughed up easily.

Anyways, Silicosis happens in mining operations, building sites etc. where silicon is present. The difference here is that the workers are breathing in huge amounts of the particles in the atmosphere. We are smoking them, I'm pretty sure it's not as dangerous as it's being made out to be.

That's even if the dust is sand or silicone.

Silica is present in the cell walls of many plants, Cannabis included. So wheither your grass is "spiked" or not, your smoking silica and have been your whole toking career.

"To the naked eye it looks like high quality cannabis, but when smoked it leaves a residue of fine sand. "
http://forum.tdpf.org.uk/forum/viewt...e7ec9dc1e76497

Even if that residue get's in your lungs, it will ge caught in the mucus.

The whole thing is a joke. With no evidence at all people are scaremongering.

Exlain about the people that have been taken to hospital with bleeding lungs then...?

[kongo]

Thanks for the heads up brethren!

I'm in Dublin,Ireland and we've been getting that shit well were getting it.I knew there was sumtin up with it.I've been smokin for years but was esperate so got me hands on a bit for a while.I smoke pure but every j I rolled was wasted couldnt get a drag and when you could there was no smoke on the exhale.Thankfully I didnt smoke it long but still I shoulda known!Everything we get here is shit unless you get it from no1 sorce which is rare.

I'm gona spread the word and big thanks again!

We need more like you.

[Abattoir Dream]

If the "sand" is being set on fire, won't it melt? It'll just turn into mucus then, which can be coughed up easily.

This weed has been sptrayed with soem sort of silica spray used in model making and may be extremely dangerous when smoked - not just due to the glue but if the small gritty glassy particles are inhaled it may lead to bleeding lungs.

remember.... we are SMOKING it, not sucking it up thru a straw... some of you seem to forget... roaches, water, gauzes... they all stop us 'inhaling' crap, and as for the bleeding lungs... ive never heard such verbal cow manure in my life... if it doesnt cut our fingers... what makes you think it will cut our lungs???

i think its all bullshit... and i have had that weed... and fucking right i took it back... just look elswhere if you dont wanna waste your health...

i dont think its anything to really worry about... just wash the weed in warm water if your that bothered.. the sand will come right off...

[purpleponcho]

abattoir dream, you are really missing the point here. this stuff is being called 'sand' because it appears to be a silica based substance, as yet noone has confirmed what it actually is. it would appear this 'sand' has been applied while the plant is still growing, as it is all through the bud and not just on the outside. such additives, like brix+, may add 200 gm to 1 kilo of dried bud, so in that case, every time you buy 1 oz of weed are getting 3/4 oz weed and 1/4 oz 'sand'. personally, i'd rather just have the weed!
same applies to the health implications, noone knows as yet. you seem to be saying, 'if i can't see it, it won't do me any harm'. if there is visible contamination, there may also be contamination which is not visible to the naked eye. perhaps some kind of fixing agent to hold the 'sand' in place.
as for, "if it doesn't cut your fingers...". you don't think the thin membrane lining of your lungs is anything like the thick skin on your fingers do you??? lol. and not everyone smokes their weed anyway.
this is not a joke or paranoid fantasy, it is all over the uk, probably as a result of the drought, and has been reported in some parts of europe as long ago as early 2005.
in my opion it's not worth buying, for a number of reasons, and the best thing to do is tell your dealer you won't buy it, but to let you know if anything else turns up.

[mackSwell]

Anything that has superfine particles/fibers (such as asbestos) can cause lung problems, because some particles can make it down into the alveoli, and your lungs aren't able to expell it with coughing. Some small particles are captured and expelled with mucous. It's the ones that aren't that cause the problems. Your body then tries to dissolve remaining foreign substances, and this causes scar tissue in the lungs, which leads to breathing troubles, and in some cases, cancer.

If particles on the weed are large enough to be visible, they are too large to get lodged in the alveoli.


Sand/Silica is what glass is made of. If it gets hot enough to melt, it won't "turn to mucous"... It will turn to glass particles. BUT... Silica has a melting point of about 2000 degrees C (about 3630 degrees F)... So unless you've got one crazy-ass lighter, you're not going to convert any sand/silica to glass!


If people are having problems with bleeding lungs, it's more likely due to a bacteria, or possibly even a mold.

Good rule of thumb: Don't smoke weed that appears to have ANYTHING weird on it!

[TheBudBuster]

nice thread.. its a fked up situation

[savagepossum]

its a fucked up world

[LIP]

IF it's sand, it wont be harmfull, as far as i know. The heat from a ligher or a burning joint isnt hot enough to melt sand, so everything will burn apart from the sand, which will be in the ash.

If it's something other than hash, get a new dealer. Simple as that, no need for threads, no need for discussion, no need for arguments. Know who your buying from. It ISNT hard, it's takes time, and you have to make friends with people before they'll let you into secrets, but as long as you dont give up, you'll get there in the end, and have a good source of GREAT bud at low prices.

Good dealers arnt kids.

Good dealers wouldnt buy sandy bud, let alone sell it on, even if they were missing out on profit.

Good dealers are not dealers, they are business men, with business sense, running the cannabis distibrution like a business... a very profitable one.