Please Pray for the Pope

[Bong30]

what Muslims have stood up....?

show me....


what Muslim leader went to the radicals and said enough is enough....


Post it smart guy.....

[B.Basher]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/5111092.stm
Muslim group speaks out against terrorism to stop bigotry in the UK

http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm
Islamic quotes against terrorism

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
Islam for Today story on anti terrorism muslims

If you care to look for it, you'll find it. Your living in denial mate.

[Torog]

Howdy BB,

Well gee..ain't that nice..btw,do any of them there muslims have any power to change things ? Will they issue a Fatwa or decree of some kind,that will change things ? Because right now-they're mostly just pissin in the wind.

Have a good one ...

[Breukelen advocaat]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/5111092.stm
Muslim group speaks out against terrorism to stop bigotry in the UK

http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm
Islamic quotes against terrorism

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
Islam for Today story on anti terrorism muslims

If you care to look for it, you'll find it. Your living in denial mate.

Too little, too late. Tne quote, "Muslim group speaks out against terrorism to stop bigotry in the UK", calls oppositon to Islamic extremeism "bigotry", which is not what it is: It's called self-preservation.

One of the religious quotes on the â??Islam for Todayâ?� website, referenced above, is: "By God, he is not a true believer, from whose mischief his neighbors do not feel secure."
Prophet Mohammed (Bukhari, Muslim)

The Koranâ??s use of the word â??neighborâ?� is referring to other Muslims, NOT the infidels This is a definite, and those bozos know it.

Personally, before wars and violence, Iâ??d use boycotts and separatism - at least until they reach some understanding that we're not going to take any more bullshit. Basically, just keep them the fuck away from us. Unfortunately, in the world of big business, and politically correct do-gooders, this is not an option.

[Psycho4Bud]

Will they issue a Fatwa or decree of some kind,that will change things ? Because right now-they're mostly just pissin in the wind.

Have a good one ...

A Fatwa is the ONLY thing that they will respect and abide by. This hasn't happened at all from the middle east so I really don't understand how people even think that Muslim religious leaders at the current time are looking for "change".


Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[BobBong]

A Fatwa is the ONLY thing that they will respect and abide by. This hasn't happened at all from the middle east so I really don't understand how people even think that Muslim religious leaders at the current time are looking for "change".

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not happening.

Change starts at home.

[Bong30]

Tell them to start the Change BOB....


I call it a reformation.......For so long, im sick of typing it.


Bob, B basher, Eg, and many others...... = head in the sand Libs..... Not a name but a lable.

"useful Idiots" come to mind......Too, not a name, but a Lable.

Ring ring......

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In political jargon, the term "useful idiot" was used during the Cold War by anti-communists to describe Soviet sympathizers in western countries (particularly in the United States) and the alleged attitude of the Soviet government towards them. The implication was that the person in question was naïve, foolish, or in willful denial, and that he or she was being cynically used by the Soviet Union, or another Communist state. The term is still in use and used more broadly to describe someone who is perceived to be manipulated by political movement, terrorist group, or hostile government, whether or not the group is Communist in nature.


^^^^^^^You guys to a T ^^^^^^^^

[B.Basher]

Regarding the links:

Torog and Bong, you have a point that there is an absence of Muslims in authorative positions attempting to help the situation, but the evidence is there that your typically Christian muslim bashing is clearly rooted in generalisation. I doubt you'd even aknowledge that any form of Muslims speaking out against the fanatics of their own religion is a step in the right direction, it's much easier for you as fanatics yourself to bask in your own hatred.

Tell me i'm an idiot and do nothing to prove otherwise as I much expect you will.

[B.Basher]

someone who is perceived to be manipulated by political movement, terrorist group, or hostile government, whether or not the group is Communist in nature.

You couldn't find a more far off description of my motivations. I find politics a deeply imperfect system full of lies, deceit and manipulation. Calling me a terrorist or terrorist sympathiser makes you sound like a frustrated child and the hostile government is exactly my problem half the time.

So you found a negative quotation more complex than anything you could come up with yourself and hoped it would account for everyone on here. It doesn't hurt to swallow your pride once in a while you know.

[andruejaysin]

You should strive to be a useful idiot bong, it would be a step up from what you are.