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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    'Tis the season to place seed orders - (fa la la la la...)

    US mail is so very busy between now and Dec. 20th that I've found it an excellent time to order items you want to keep under the radar. Of course there's an increased chance of packages being lost or delayed as well, but if you're primary concern is detection, order now!

    I have some promising Spice of Life/DJ Short "Sweet Tooth #1.1" seeds on order from Hemp Depot. These are a special release cross between SoL's Sweet Pink Grapefruit and DJ's Blueberry. I love it when we all work together!

    I've got a new bubbler hydro system in the works. 4 plant. I use 1 clamp lamp with reflector per plant. I start with floros and switch to clear incandescents or MH along the way. This allows for individual attention to each plant's needs, and helps to keep them compact, as each has it's own light directly aimed at it. It's also pretty damned cheap!

    I have a nice closet prepped... White walls, about 4' wide, 3' deep, 8' high. Grounded timer with a power strip attached, lights and fan. Air pump goes in a second socket.

    I know that A + B nutes are in favor, but to start off, I'm going to give an all-in-one a whirl: Dyna-Gro. I've seen others successful results with this product (In fact, I think someone used it who posted a journal on here? I'll have to check and link if I find it).

    I may still to a test-run with baggie seeds, now germinating between paper towels in a Jiffy Propagator (lid lined with foil to keep dark), sitting on a heating pad.

    Any input is welcome, and once I have things rolling (well, not rolling... oh, you know) I'll get some pix up.

    Think Green!
    mackSwell Reviewed by mackSwell on . New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome! 'Tis the season to place seed orders - (fa la la la la...) US mail is so very busy between now and Dec. 20th that I've found it an excellent time to order items you want to keep under the radar. Of course there's an increased chance of packages being lost or delayed as well, but if you're primary concern is detection, order now! I have some promising Spice of Life/DJ Short "Sweet Tooth #1.1" seeds on order from Hemp Depot. These are a special release cross between SoL's Sweet Pink Rating: 5
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    #2
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    WHAT ARE THE PRICES

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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

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    I'm not selling anything... I am simply suggesting that this is a good time to place orders for seeds and such and have them go unnoticed.

    If you're looking for seeds, I like Hemp Depot. Prices range from about $30/10 seeds on up to about $365/10.

    If you're looking for a hydro system, try eBay - You can get a decent bubbler system for under $40.

    If you're looking for weed, grow your own, Brother! *wink*
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    Never, ever use incandescant bulbs for growing plants. Use a CFL instead. I don't know maybe you made a typing mistake but incandescants suck for growing plants and will NOT ever work. Besides, CFL are even cheaper in the long run that incandescants so why would anyone in their right mind want to use them.

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    #5
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    4 plants in one container you mean? Hope it's a big one

    I think the idea of the 1 clamp lamp CFL per plant is a decent one. If I'd have a couple of those I'd have used them instead of my old 4 ft shop light buring 80 watts and only a fraction of it hitting my 2 lil plants.

    I believe what I'll wind up doing is putting them under HPS with hortilux (increased blue spectrum) light after another week or so.

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    #6
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    MisterE-

    *chuckle* Yep, it's a 4-hole bubbler tub, 10 gallon resevoir.

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    I'd love to hear an update on how your lighting works out - Experience beats all. *grin*


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    Perp -

    I have had success in the past with incandescents during the flowering phase. At that point, the plants need red & far red light, and CFLs do provide some, but not as much. Hell, even good ol' Mr. Sunshine doesn't provide as much red as incandescents do!

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    CFLs are great for veg - They provide much blue and green spectrum, blue being what plants need most in veg. For flowering, I usually rotate the CFLs and the incandescents to provide a close-to-full-spectrum. I definitely give them more incandescent though - I've found that giving them lots of CFL in flower adds to their sprawling growth more than to their bud size. Your buds want lots of that red toward the end...

    But perhaps I'll experiment with this batch since each plant has its own lamp. I could leave one on CFL throughout, and show y'all pix of the difference, if any. Test out that "anyone in their right mind" theory of yours. *smirk*
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    #8
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    On light waves favored during flowering (7th paragraph):

    http://www.rexresearch.com/hhusb/hh4bot.htm#HH48
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    #9
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    More on favored flowering wavelenghts (under HPS Light):

    http://www.bestgrowlights.com/site/403863/page/69077


    Incandescents provide that red & far red that you'd get from HPS, but without as much heat and at a lower cost (bulb and electricity).
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    New Bubbler Grow Coming Soon - Input Welcome!

    FYI - My whole set-up* cost about $125, including:

    ~4 plant tub
    ~net pots
    ~rockwool
    ~nutes
    ~air pump
    ~air stones & line
    ~Hydrotron
    ~8 oz. Dyna-Gro nutrients

    (all of the above in one kit for $37 less S&H)

    ~pH up & down (though you can skimp here and use distilled white vinegar and baking soda
    ~pH test kit
    ~4 clamp lamps
    ~4 CFLs
    ~4 clear incandescents (get the appliance bulbs)
    ~grounded timer
    ~power strip w/ 8' cord
    ~2 6" fans

    [align=right]*Seeds & closet not included.[/align]


    My closet is in a bathroom with its own vent, so I shouldn't need an additional one. I had a few of these items already (fans, timer, power strip, extra rockwool), and I may need to get an ionizer if things get smelly, but all-in-all, it's a good, budget start for anyone looking to join the growers!
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