KP, the papayas are only just flowering now so I'll let you know how they turn out; as I said, I was growing a bagseed line up until only this summer so all the 'good' strains are either vegging or flowering with the exception of the Afghani Dream, which is rejuving right now for clones.

Well I hate to say but I finally broke down and bug-bombed this morning. My flying pest problem was really starting to piss me off because there's only so much you can do with the neem in flower, ya know?

So I went to home depot and found a fogger that contains only pyrethrins and no activators. The activators can be nasty. This one is a Raid product with only permethrin in it... I'll let you know how it works out, but I harvested anything that looked even close to ready because now anything in there is STAYING there for at least the next week while that shit breaks down.

GADS I'm so glad I haven't had mites yet.