Help, sort of urgent!

[razzapiggy]

Plants are about two weeks old, under a 1000 watt HID right now. They were originally in soil when I got em about a week ago, and I put them into my Sunshine #4 in some start pots. They had no transplant shock at all, unless it was somehow delayed. Today, they look a tad droopy to me. I have watered them when the soil 2-3 inches down was completely dry, so my problem is def. not over-watering. I am getting another 30-35 clones later today, so I would like to diagnose this real quick and get rid of any plants if they are sick - only have four right now. I will try to upload pictures soon.

One thing I can think of is that when I did the transplant, the rock-wool ended up closer to the top of the Sunshine than i wanted. Maybe the rock wool is drying out too quickly? I have no started using nutes just yet, figured they were probably still getting some from the soil. Anyone have any ideas? Will post pictures later



One last thing, the stems around the top of the plant have traces of purple in it. Any help is much much appreciated!

razzapiggy Reviewed by razzapiggy on 11-24-2006. Help, sort of urgent! Plants are about two weeks old, under a 1000 watt HID right now. They were originally in soil when I got em about a week ago, and I put them into my Sunshine #4 in some start pots. They had no transplant shock at all, unless it was somehow delayed. Today, they look a tad droopy to me. I have watered them when the soil 2-3 inches down was completely dry, so my problem is def. not over-watering. I am getting another 30-35 clones later today, so I would like to diagnose this real quick and get rid Rating: 5

[harris7]

funny, a buddy of mine has the exact same set up as you. and just got a bunch fo clones last week

well a 1000W (hps or MH) is very hot for little guys. How far away do you have it. you should have it at least 2 ft away. The heat causes them to loose water quickly.

What are you temps like? Try to keep below 80 F. dont worry if you cant. I cant seem to most of the time. But dont let it get above 85.

a good idea might be to move the light far away and mist them. Then move the light back close when the waters gone off the leafs. you dont want to burn the leaf. Make sure the mist is very fine, no beading.

You can also try to increase the humidity of your room. HAve a few buckets of water around. it all helps. It seems to me that they are just drying out. No worries it happends. But they can die very easily when they are so young.

you should have your lights on 18/6. IMO
What i do, is give them a small amount of water several times a day. And i only water were i know the roots are. ie the rock wool.

Pictures help

[razzapiggy]

funny, a buddy of mine has the exact same set up as you. and just got a bunch fo clones last week

well a 1000W (hps or MH) is very hot for little guys. How far away do you have it. you should have it at least 2 ft away. The heat causes them to loose water quickly.

What are you temps like? Try to keep below 80 F. dont worry if you cant. I cant seem to most of the time. But dont let it get above 85.

a good idea might be to move the light far away and mist them. Then move the light back close when the waters gone off the leafs. you dont want to burn the leaf. Make sure the mist is very fine, no beading.

You can also try to increase the humidity of your room. HAve a few buckets of water around. it all helps. It seems to me that they are just drying out. No worries it happends. But they can die very easily when they are so young.

you should have your lights on 18/6. IMO
What i do, is give them a small amount of water several times a day. And i only water were i know the roots are. ie the rock wool.

Pictures help

I have the lights on pretty much 24 hours a day. My temps are fine, never gets above 85. I keep the lamp about a foot and a half away from them, it was three feet away but I lowered it a bit. The soil is still moist, how can they be drying out? I did make the mistake of transplanting with the rock wool a bit too close to the surface of the soil, however I really think I have a bigger problem than drying out. Phospherus maybe? The stem is a bit purple, worrying me...thanks for the help[

[harris7]

the plant dries out, not the soil

this happens when the rate of transpiration (loss of water from leafs)
exceeds the rate of absorption by the roots.

so they loose water faster than they can suck it up. Because there root system isn't big enough.

so you can do a bunch of things to lower the rate of transpiration. I listed them above

[harris7]

i doubt you have any nute problems. most people do not give nutes to young clones. as the soil should have enough. Assuming the roots have made their way to the soil.

when you transplanted them did you give them a root stimulator?

[razzapiggy]

Hey Harris, thanks for the help buddy. I understand what you are saying now.


No, I didn't use anything special when I transplanted, just put em in the bigger pots. No transplant shock at all. I had a friend of mine come over and he said they need water too, so your assessment is 100% right on. Thanks for the help

I will impliment one of the things you suggested, and I will let you know which I use...and what the results are.


Thanks!

[razzapiggy]

Meant to wrote I have the lamp 2.5 feet away from the babies, not 1.5 feet. I gave them a watering around two hours ago, no huge improvement thus yet but I will have to be patient. Also the way I transplanted them the rock wool is a little closer to the surface than I would like, so I will have to watch out for these four, and just place the rock wool lower in the pot when I transplant the other thirty I get later on. Thanks for the help