Fair enuff Bongo! not sayin the size of my plants dont worry me but i think with my circumstances my lights are good enuff for the moment. When i can, il get the rolls royce of lights! but now u mention it, can i go bak to veging growth now? before i had them on 18/6. The lights are two dirt cheap energy saving envirolites @ 125w. The red spec emitts 2700k and blue 6400k (as quoted on box).