My thoughts on athiesm

[harris7]

If you cared to look into the subject, you'd find that philosophy (much like science) has advanced since the 17th century. Descartes? Please...

Really well thanks for letting me know.

I dont know for sure because i dont really like old philosophy readings and I generally dont need to finish to understand the arguments but..
wasn't "I tihnk therefore i am" only half way through his meditation and didn't he make some progress himself?

anyhoo, for you information i'm actually perusing a degree in philosophy

[mrdevious]

damn, i lost it again. i start a reply and then lose the freakin thing.

i'll make this one short

it's not a matter of facts or a system of knowledge or even deductive reasoning that determines reality. it is our perception.

1+1=2 may be false depending on your perception of the elements of the equation.

as perception changes reality changes, as reality changes the "facts" change, what was true then is false now.

this way lies madness and we embrace it with all our hearts

Did you just watch "What The Bleep Do We Know?" and say "OMG OMG THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE NOW!!!"? (like so many people do). Even if that is the case, you're misinterpreting and overexpanding the theory.

In any event, then it still doesn't give or take away any ground to the god theory, since our perceptions about either the existence or non-existence of him are completely unpredictable and changing.

getting a little testy, are we?

If you can consider that post by Polymerize "getting a little testy", then this whole board is having a mental breakdown.

[JunkYard]

It's about damn time, too! I was getting lonely being the only mental case round here, lol!

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[Oneironaut]

When I read the title of this thread, I knew it couldn't have been written by an atheist, since atheists know how to spell "atheism".

Anywho...I am an atheist. What can I say? There's nothing I have ever experienced in my life that would qualify as sufficient evidence that there's a gigantic invisible superhuman intelligence that spontaneously came out of nowhere and then designed the universe. That hypothesis seems too improbable for words. In my experience, it seems all the evidence points to the fact that intelligence does not spring out of nothingness by chance. Intelligence only seems to arise through the non-random process of Darwinian natural selection over geological timespans in incremental steps from simple beginnings. The creationists are right on one point: incredibly complex things don't just form themselves out of nothing by chance. Trouble is, they fail to apply this principle to their own God, and fail to see why evolution is a non-random process that explains the only way complex intelligence can conceivably arise from simple self-replicating molecules.

If there is such a God, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster, or a Santa Claus out there, I invite them all to show evidence of themselves. Until then, the lack of evidence is going to lead to a lack of belief. That's just how my brain works, and there's nothing I can do to change it. I can't make myself believe in something for which there is no evidence, so I don't believe in God, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Santa Claus.

[Oneironaut]

Actually, scratch that. I do have observable physical evidence of Santa Claus, in the form of millions of presents delivered to children of Christian parents every December 25. It just seems at the moment that the more probable hypothesis is that Santa Claus is a fictional character invented by Christian adults that they deceive their children into believing for some weird reason. But that's still way more evidence for Santa Claus than God.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

It's about damn time, too! I was getting lonely being the only mental case round here, lol!

the only mental case? hell, no!!!

i've been certifiable for so long, i don't remember what sanity is like.

isn't it fun to watch the thoughts go round and round in your head and just pull them out, play with them and then let them fly away.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Did you just watch "What The Bleep Do We Know?" and say "OMG OMG THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE NOW!!!"? (like so many people do). Even if that is the case, you're misinterpreting and overexpanding the theory.

In any event, then it still doesn't give or take away any ground to the god theory, since our perceptions about either the existence or non-existence of him are completely unpredictable and changing.

actually i seem to have gotten way off course, as i am wont to do, and slipped a cog or two. and no, this is merely observation not some borrowed philosophical clap-trap. so you can see how medication (meditation/mendication/benediction) might be necessary

[JunkYard]

the only mental case? hell, no!!!

i've been certifiable for so long, i don't remember what sanity is like.

isn't it fun to watch the thoughts go round and round in your head and just pull them out, play with them and then let them fly away.

Yup, it's a lot of fun [At times] Only, sometimes they don't fly, but land face first in the dirt along with me ego, lol!


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