Quote Originally Posted by ate
I've experience all that, and a lot more.

The only way I can keep it all around is by not smoking every day and by smoking either high quality bud, or semi-high quality bud through a gravity or a steam roller.

Sometimes a few large blunts will do it.

But, research "siddhis", and there's a bunch more but I can't really think of right now.

Marijuana unlocks something, that's for sure, when I'm truly in a state like that.

I don't get hungry, I don't want to laugh, I don't want to act like a typical stoner subculturing, that's like the difference between those who used cocaine in medical environments way back when it was used in hospitals, and those who get coked up every night to make their worries go away.

A lot of people fit into the second category there, they eat, they indulge and use every bit of this plant for all the wrong reasons, that's just stupid, exactly like building up a cocaine habit because you can't handle your life without an escape, while others actually used it for a specific medical, or mental purpose. It's literally the most defaming and degrading thing you could possibly do, what's worse is that they go and say "I love weed", it's the biggest lie in the world.

OP, or anyone else that has experienced a psychedelic effect, do you ever wonder what it's for? I mean. We are humans, and humans evolve, so everything in our life is either an evolutionary asset, or a limiter. What's the asset with marijuana. Note suffering, both in the Buddhist sense, as well as the sense that animals are simply animals and nothing more, is life. So where does marijuana fit it.

What's the next step, when smoking marijuana, for your life, in terms of mind, spirit, body and evolution? There's something very important there, right in the high, that either will be found, or won't be. If it is found then every oz you've ever smoked was an evolutionary asset, and helped you. If not, than every time you smoked, you were fitting into the second category of the cocaine user analogy I put above.

Many people won't want to hear this, but there has to be a middle ground somewhere from the people who literally want to make this organism extinct on the face of the planet, and those who want to keep it growing next to their beds. The middle ground is that it's not our decision as to control the planet and nature, all things are already the way they need to be, including with this planet and our access to it. As for spiritual quests, where one will change the world, bring what they desire by the mind, to themselves, and go out and get what's needed, then it should be done for learning. If it was to be done for indulgence, and happiness, then one will quickly find themselves in a very large whole, dug by their desire to exist for themselves, and to please only themselves.

You may think it's nice to be nice to others, but it's an extension of this, to be nice to all organisms, this includes plants, and for this you must realize whether you are using the plant correctly, whether you are hurting the plant, or whether you will cause others to hurt the plant.

Very big subject, very touchy, yet it decides many things about who you are and where you're going.
Smoking weed is wrong if you're not looking for a higher purpose? So should we stop riding roller coasters because they don't evolve us?

Were you trying to say that marijuana is here for a purpose, and not just so we can giggle and eat? Because marijuana is here the same reason every other plant is, it wants to thrive, and that's all it wants. It has nothing to do with humans.

Or maybe I just completely missed what you were trying to say.