Quote Originally Posted by t3chyo
refering to bold: What company isnt trying to squeeze every single penny out of you? Are you kidding? The PS3 is loaded with a bunch of crap, blue-ray, 6 wi-fi ports, all that stuff making it the most expansive console ever. The only company I have alot of respect for is Nintendo, they go for the experience like i said above and try to keep the price range as low as possible providing quality games.

NOW...

I never said the system came internet ready? I did say you have to buy a wi-fi adapter...Now that I think about it, the system does come internet ready, just like dreamcast was(dial up), xbox was, it has a broadband ethernet adapter in the back, as well as free 2month(?) subscription to xboxlive service. Xbox live is also only $50 a month which comes out to about $4.16 a month, if you cannot afford that but could afford a PS3, than theres something wrong. Also the service does not suck, im sorry please be more specific why it does. PS3's internet service may be free, but its nothing to talk about.:thumbsup:

Quote Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
yeah but think about it this way... the whole time you're paying for xbox live, after purchasing the system, you're going to end up paying just as much as the person who went with the ps3 and get their connection for free... and it's service sucks because you have to pay for it, there's absolutely no reason why playstation can offer free connection, while xbox can't, they just want to milk you for every penny and they are... that's just why i hate xbox live, i have even more reasons why i hate xbox period...


You're both retarded. First off, what the fuck is a "wifi port"? That is rhetorical, wifi is wireless, you don't understand electronics, etc, etc.

Second off, XBOX live is a huge fuckin operation. They spend hundreds of thousands per month on it, and I would not be surprised if they loose money on it every month.
Normally I would agree that them charging you for it is bullshit, but look at how PS2 online turned it... truly horrible.

The problem with free accounts is that you are basically not accountable for your actions. When your first account gets shitty ratings, just make another, it's free! I mean, they could tie your reputation/etc to the console, but then what if you want to sell it? The new buyer has to deal with your rep and your stats? That sucks.

Another problem is that people will play a matchmaking game, get good at it, then create a new account and just pwn noobs. This happened in Halo 2, where people would get bored playing other level 40s and just make a new account, ripping level 5s etc apart. It really sucked to be in a game and just get destroyed by one person. If that was a problem when accounts were $50 (well less if it's a 2 month or 3 month, but you get the point), it is going to be awful with free accounts.

M$ is not "nickel and diming" you, and trust me, I hate them more than you. Just because Sony is willing to take a hit for you doesn't mean M$ is ripping you off.