Water Farm/DWC club

[xcrispi]

WOW ,
jorge sure threw some conterdictive shit out there for us huh ?
well weedhound , just so happens all the trics. on the blueberry are all clear . i'll cut 2-3 budz. off of that plant -n- mark it . i'll dry the nugz -n- cure in my usual fashion . when the remainder of that given plant is 50/50 milky/amber i'll chop , dry -n- cure . i'll tell ya which - clear or 50/50 has the best effects .
sorry your threads all shot to hell bluebear .lol. w/f-dwc etc... now huh ?

back on subject ,
sup mackSwell ? someone else had all these thoughts about dividers , screens etc... in pg. 1 or 2 of this thread , i think ? :bonghit: and we all tried to steer them away from it . unless they're clones or feminised beans . BAD DOG !!! i was too lazy or high to go into greater detail earlier in this thread ?

3 yrs. ago during my last sog dirt grow i bought a "larry n misty's" 6 pot drip sys. off ebay. YEP i ain't afraid of ebay either - to start my hydro explorations . i knew damn good -n- well 6 plants wouldn't fit in a 10 gal. rubbermade cont . so i did 3- in 3in. netpots . figured i could yank males in time . notttttttt . 2 girlz + 1 guy = 1 huge root system , in just 3 weeks too - but i had a 1000w. hps -n- not incadesents . the male was cut back as far as i could w/o killing it and put a damn brown paper grocery bag over him . looked like the unknown comic n shit . 1 bubbleberry female -n- 1 bubblegum female w/ lotsa lst n 1 toping got me 15 oz. 9 ounces of smoke -n- 6 ounces of seeds.
the pump got burned up in rez. by roots growing into pump . i took a piece of pantyhose n put pump in it . no dice = roots grow thru pantyhose. i tried a bio-bag from a whisper brand fish filter nope = roots grow thru bio-bags too . i'm convinced roots will grow thru everything .

1st thing i did after that grow was rip that 10 gal. tub apart n make a 5 gal. drip bucket out of it . 1 plant per bucket .

i took the time to read your thread too . i used dyna brand nutes my first 2 hydro grows too . i now use g/h 3 part w/ better results . yes , hempdepot has come thru for me in the past too . that's where my fem. mutt crosses came from . looks like you need to invest in a ppm. pen even if it's just a cheapie . i think mines a sunleaves -n- was only about 40.00 . a lil hps. hid too. i'm interested in the blueberry you have too so keep us posted .
peace
crispi :greenthumb:

[latewood]

funny...my 1st bubbler was 1-10g rubbermaid 4 top like larry and misty's (basically copied it)...LOL and; I just did a clone grow in it for old time sake...really! I had 7-8 clones goong to waste...So I said what the hell? I threw the strongest 4 in the tub and got a 1/4lb out of it...I neglected it, and deprived it of nutes...I would dump the leftover whatever from the main plants...and I didn't get big buds, but I got 1/4 lb...so you can grow clones 4 to a tub...flower at 2 weeks of veg following rooting.

Hey I want to say to all. I always preach 3-part because I have found. after experiment with a lot of brands; i.e. Advanced nutrients (even VooDoo Juice)...pure blend pro...Which I love, but PBP is organic and doesn't provide the yield of 3-part. I also, as posted recently elsewhere...Quit using additives,with the exception of calmag+...I use ROwater; And Occasionally some Liquid Karma for rez health. Superthrive 1/4tsp per gallon; I find helpful for Stress; starting/propagation, spritzing clones and seedlings. The point being...My yield and roots and taste is better than ever...Simple and sweet

later

[C. Dizz]

Hey, i got a question for you all really quick. I have a 1/4hp water chiller and have only used it on my Aeroflo 60 that has a 40gal res, where I set the chiller at 68. I hooked up a 360gph pump to the chiller so it cycles pretty quick.

Now, Im doing a smaller scale 6 site, recirculating DWC grow, with the controller bucket 5gallon. I hooked up my chiller to the controller, using the same 360gph pump, but Im not sure what temp to set the chiller to, considering that the controller bucket has to circulate out to all other 6 buckets. What do you think I should set it too? Thanks.

[Weedhound]

Sorry C, I don't know anything about chillers so can't help you there. Well it's nice to know that X-C has done all the work for us in regards to how "not to grow". I'm glad you said that about the pantyhose because I would have bet they would have worked and if that's about as fine a screen as anything I cant think of. So now I am thinking of a solid barrier between the plants and perhaps some sort of screen towards the bottom of the barrier only. Yep, starting to sound like a custom thing as latewood said.

Now there's a picture for y'all as well.....the unknown comic alive and well and living in X-C's grow room.

[xcrispi]

lol weedhound ,
been playin for 18-20 years off -n- on . no shame in crispis game . you can make lotsa mistakes in 18 yrs. when i started the only resource i had was ed rosenthals m/j growers bible . no internet back in the day . hell atari 400/800 -n- comodore 64 were the computers of choice . lmao . i'd just as soon have ppl. learn from my mistakes instead of making them all themselves .

hey c-dizz ,
if i were you i'd set up my system first w/o any plant life , just water. set chiller at a given temp. and put an aquarium thermometer in the bucket furthest from the chiller . you'll know the bigest temp. chg. you might encounter between the chiller and all buckets . from my reading on here about 65 deg. is the happy spot and point that water holds the most oxygen . i've never played w/ a chiller before but this would be my starting point .
peace
crispi

[MisterE]

I think you could be fairly certain your whole system would be darn near the setting your chiller is set for based on your pump size.

If you're pumping 360 gallons per hour (minus whatever distance it's going etc), the number of times per hour the whole system replaces should be plenty to have almost even temps in every container.

I'd also confirm it with a remote thermometer like xcrispi says, then you'll have a real good idea after half a day where your temps are at all the time.

[mackSwell]

Weedhound: *chuckle* Yah, work. *wrinkles nose* And the cheesecloth may indeed break down. Maybe sometime I'll just throw a piece into the bottom of my rez and see what it does over time.

Latewood: Holes probably would be trouble, (though with daily check of roots and turning of pots so roots tangle among their own might help) and no holes would be like having individual buckets. Yep - Communal rez is probably the thinking (wo)man's way to go.

XCrispi: *laugh* Well, sorta they did... But the cheesecloth part was new, as was the point of adding individual airstones so that you don't have to worry about screen/divider breaking up your bubbles. *Ppbbblllt* *wink*

I did some LST yesterday & today to Champ... Photo & ramblings at:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...t=92745&page=2

[BlueBear]

Hey, if you can, set the chiller in the res a little cooller than you want in the buckets because the buckets will creat a warmer water temp since they are under the lights and the fresh recerculating water from the res will off set that warmth. I read a thread yesterday that said 59D is the most proficient water temp for O2 max. Only thing, not all strains will take to temps that cool while others will thrive like no others. I would set the chiller at about 62D and test the buckets directly under the lights and if they are staing under 68D then you are in good shape. I would do the test after leaving lights on for 12 to 18 hours or even a 2 day trial, a test with lights on and lights out.
Hy gang, been busy so haven't had much time to post.

[C. Dizz]

Thanks for the input people. Im sure running the chiller at like 60 would sufice to bringing all 6 buckets in the low 60's range. Im actually lowering the chillers input pump from 360 to a 185gph considering my res/controller bucket is a mere 5 gallons, not the 40 gallon res i had it dialed to for the previous system.

But heres what im wondering. A while ago when I last ran a Recirculating DWC, i used a pump in the controller that pumped water up through a 1/4" line splitter that split into 6 1/4" lines. Each line ran to each of the 6 buckets lids, so the recirculating system pumped from the controller, through the lines to all 6 buckets, and flowed back through the 1/2" tubing that connected all the buckets to the controller. (same as the recirc. dwc that was explained on a OG how to)

Now, I want to make the recirculation tubing different. As in, instead of the 6 line splitter, I want to run it through 2 lines of 1/2" tubing, that connect 3 buckets on each line, so the the buckets would all be inline. I think this would work a little more efficent what do you all think. Thanks. :smokin:

Pic 1: Is how I used to run it.
Pic 2: How I think I should make it now.

[xcrispi]

hey c dizz ,
out of the 2 options you have there i like the 1st best . it can flow up to 3 times as fast back to the controller bucket w/ 6 inlets verses 2 , you can run pump faster = recur. faster .

i have kinda the same set up as your pic. 2 . but not ebb n grow . i just recur. mine 24/7 to keep p/h -n- ppm. the same in all buckets . i only have 2 rows of 2 buckets though . not 2 rows of 3 . when i set mine up like this i had worries of nutes being pumped from the controller to my rez. and right back down to the controller again -n- not drawing the nutes out of the buckets so well . i dyed plain water w/ foodcolors and ran sys. w/ a 120 gph pump at 3/4 the way up and it took 20 min. to draw all tinted water out . the longer the rows of buckets the longer it'll take too . when set up this way also there's very little room for movement n spacing/rearanging the buckets too .

my next grow i'm gonna try the manifold i posted the pic. but modified a lil . gonna have t fittings on all 4 corners and 2 valves . that way = 2 lines from rez. to plants and 2 lines into controller so recur. faster and each bucket has more range of movement cause you can run any length tube from manifold to the bucket then .

peace
crispi