Water Farm/DWC club

[xcrispi]

hey bluebear ,
i'm using latewoods formula + just a hint of koolbloom . i wish i woulda found L/W's recipe before i bought a 6 gal. jug of all 3 lol. 6 gals. of grow is gonna last a lifetime . plants look really happy though . i change the resovior every 7-8 days . i really don't think the blueberry is as fussy as i had read or thought it was gonna be . it was heat stress in the begining . as far as optinum p/h for 5 weeks of veg . i dont know . the sys. was screwy for first 2 1/2 weeks due to not recirculating . last part of veg. ph was 5.8-5.9 . i'm trying to keep it a lil lower than that for flower like 5.5-5.8 .

i wouldn't buy the 8 pk. again if i had it to do all over again bear .
i'd buy the drip coloums / driprings seperate for 10.00 a bucket and make my own system . these w/f containers being square sucks too . next grow i'm getting 3gal. buckets that stack inside 5 gal. pails and drill the hell out of em . = round w/f so we can spin em to expose new pts of plants to the light . picking the inner net pot up to spin em cause of being square is b/s -4ft plant easy 36in. across weighs prob 40-50 lbs. and no headroom . i just want mrs. crispi to have to rotate em / no pickin' em up .

i don't use the resovior or float valve like your suposed to either .
30 gal. garbage can would work just as good . i have the bigger round texas controller and only use the bottom half w/o the float valve , i have 2 air stones in the resovior and 1 sunmersible fishtank heater in the resovior itself set on low and recirculate the system constantly .

i gotta add usually between 1-3 gal. of just p/h water to resovior everyday , and p/h whole nute mix once a day due to .2 -.4 rise every 24 hrs. n thats it . i drip every other 15min = lights on , and once an hr. for 15min.= lights off .

you can save yourself money doing it yourself -you can still use hand tools .

peace
crispi

[BlueBear]

Thanks X, I will have to keep all of that in mind. I guess we are all doomed to the world of DIY when growing this plant.
Hope that you and the Mrs are doing alright. Thanks for all of the input. If you ever want to get rid of that TX controler let me know.
Adieu

[Weedhound]

I'm not sure I would buy the 8 pack again either as it is a fair amount of work but honestly I haven't really thought about other growing other ways (areo etc) If you are looking for a "turn-key" system I would probably says it is pretty good as far as having pretty much what you "need" but I completely agree with X-C about modifying it right off the bat because what you "need" vs what will make your life easier on a daily basis are definitely two different things. I'm on my way to work so can't think right now but will try to put together some thoughts on what things are the most work about it when I can. Some of the obvious have been mentioned but there are other things....cleaning the whole thing out after a grow is a bitch and a 1/2.... give me some time to shake the rocks out of the brain.

[latewood]

nobodys rambling , neither 1 of ya's .
i agree w/ you latewood . it might take alot of trial -n- error before 1 find one that trips my trigger in all the aspects i'm looking for . potency-yield-right med qual.-etc... i really would like to try a sativa strain = 3-4 hits -n- O.M.G "what'd i go-n-do effect" . but i only have 6ft.2in. of headroom in growroom -6in. for cooltunes -16in. for height of farms = 48in. for plants . sativas can be monsters w/ height . L.S.T the hell out of em ?

a sativa clone will allow you to flower after you root, then veg for two weeks...plant should be over 3-5 feet max inc/bubbler...and If so. do as I do. bend the top over. this causes a monster fat elbow of buds to grow. see attachment 1

weedhound - the definition of a med. m/j strain is probably very , very broad . just because of a suposed high thc level is a weak way to judge it -n- from what i've seen that's what most seedbanks are going by from the looks of things . most thc % ratings of 18% or better are refered to as med. strains more often than others .

medical marijuana is defined by the characteristics of different strains...some effect anxiety better then others; As well some plant help peolple manage chronic pain better. Potentially all strains can be mmj.
It is not , what strains are mmj or good for mmj? It is; What are the different effects of each and what area of relief does that strain provide? make sense

i'm missing 9 digits -5 fingers/4 toes and have serious neuro. probs. due to shooting and phantom pain etc... i find a stronger body buzz helps this . i'd be willing to bet what helps me might not do a damn thing for someone like bear w/ vision probs. or glocoma , sooo many dif. healing properties . the old adage "kill the brain ya kill the pain " is B/S . there's too many dif. physcical and psychological effects on us .

prob. why we're seeing soo many newbie kidz posting stuff about not getting high sometimes , i think they're expecting the same effect everytime but don't get it , either because of dif. strains - or - indica/sativas diff effects .

might take quite a while to nail down what's best for me . like latewood said everbodys dif. my asking others prob. isn't the right way to go about this ? maybe trial and error sorta till i hit it .
many thanx as always for any and all input , answers -n- suggestions .
peace
crispi :greenthumb:

You mentioned wanting to grow a sativ, but you have height issues. do this. see pik. I decided to do a thread on the effects and results of this technique.

[xcrispi]

hey latewood ,
thanx man . i just noticed the 90deg. sativa tip 2 pages back . how long does it take to recover from something like that ? week- like when topping ? i 've been looking for afg./ sativa strains like you and stinky attic both suggested . maybe strawberry cough 80 sat/20 ind i think ?
thanx man
your cuz
crispi

[latewood]

I am going to do a thread on the idea. It seems to go crazy after a couple of days. you oughta see all the frickin Budsites I got going on.

I tell you...every grow, I get better results from tweaking and such, but I am experimenting this grow as always.

The topic of this grow's experiment...Bend break height management and pruning (light pruning). I am trying to weigh the effects of taking damaged and dying leaves...I am seeing how the airflow and extra light effects the lower immature growth. In fact, I am thinking of setting up side lighting as a rule in order to harvest maybe twice as much, because in my estimation, growing large bushes, 1/2 the plant produces 1/4 of harvest, and if you could get the lower growth as fat as the upper growth...Now that would increase yield I would guess 50% turn a 1/4lb yield into 6 oz...later,.sorry just spouting off.

[BlueBear]

I think it was on PG I read a thread where a fellow always did a 3 part harvest, top, middle and then bottom in a three week incrament and would pull as much off the second two chops as the first main chop.
Adieu

[Weedhound]

lw if you added side lighting what kind would you use? I'd love to know how that affects your yield etc.... I lst'd for the first time with my last grow and was extremely impressed by the results so I'll definitely be doing that again.

Before I started growing I really knew only two "kinds" of mj....indica and sativa (not to mention not knowing the difference between the two really) and am just know exploring the different strains etc....believe me I had no idea of all the possibilities out there.....a large part of the reason I'm not ready to work on cloning yet....too much other stuff to try. :yippee:

[testsubject421]

so i use the same method as bongo and never have had any probs (one thing is if you grow big make sure you have a big res or youl be watering once a day or more?!) i use 400 watt hps 2 per room 4wx6lx8h one vegi room one bloom room i use foxfarm mostly i also use bc bloom stuff i also use superthrive and 35% food grade h202 i have 3 1/2 gal buckets that my local creamery uses for ice cream i get them free with lids i just need to wash
i use dip & grow for my rooting hormone i put in 1x1x1 rockwool and wait till roots come out the bottom and then into the net pots i use hygromite if i need to balence my rockwoll i use tap water and i do tds test when i have probs otherwise i dont bother i use large shalow rubbermaid tubs for my rooting pan (i fill with clones then i water as neded) i keep this up on a shelf higher than my lights so they get extra heat i yeald about 2 oz per plant in 3 months from cuting of clone to harvest (i try not to let them get to big or its a lot of work) i use a few diferent strains some i got from friends some i bought a rhino seed i bought barnys sweettooth and my god its awesome!!!!!!
i bought nirvana papaya and it sucked i bought shaman its awesome also it wold be a good out door its huge and lankey nice purp buds tho if any questions ask i can take pics also.......but i can be lazy!!!
sorry about typos im at work and speeding thru this

[Weedhound]

Love that name 421!