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	11-15-2006, 06:04 AM #1 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...Oh, man sorry I was thinking somthing completly different and was about to call you a pussy or somthin. Were the people responsible ever caught? If not thats one hell of a thing your facing knowing whoever did it didnt get punished. 
 
 How old are you too? How old was he? Sorry to keep asking questions about the obvious thing that you really dont wana talk about. But its family man I dont dought you one bit. You can never ask him what happened, you could never say you loved him that one last time or possibly your last time with him wasnt a good one and thats what your feeling. Who knows but dont worry about it man. Yea eventually youll hafta wear it off but after 2 years I wouldnt worry about it.
 
 If anyone called you a wimp or a pussy for cryin over that I most certantly hope you punch them in the kidney.ToDrunkToFish Reviewed by ToDrunkToFish on . just a question... is it wrong for a grown man to cry... does that make them weak, or a 'pussy?' Rating: 5
 
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	11-15-2006, 06:10 AM #2 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...LMAO:dance: Originally Posted by Billionfold Originally Posted by Billionfold
 
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	11-15-2006, 06:11 AM #3 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...It's like what Billionfold said; it's not like you stubbed a big toe on the table. Sometimes life gives us a good kick to the nuts and we all know that will make ANY man cry! 
 
 Take care and try to have a good one!:thumbsup:
 
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	11-15-2006, 06:16 AM #4 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 just a question...yes they were caught, but got two years... two years for murdering my brother, i don't feel that's just, which is probably one thing that lays heavily on my conscience... i was 19, he was 17, just 2 months shy of reaching 18.... at 18, me and him got in one of the biggest fights in our entire lives... i didn't talk to him for months after that, and even after 'we'd made up' i still felt horrible about it.. i basicly kicked him out on the streets, with no where to go... so that also might play a very large role in it all.... Originally Posted by ToDrunkToFish Originally Posted by ToDrunkToFish
 
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	11-15-2006, 06:30 AM #5 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...harsh history. and no; while you may be a weak pussy for any other number of reasons slip, it's not for crying. 
 
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	11-15-2006, 06:55 AM #6 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 just a question...no one but the people present in the apartment really know what happened, and none of them are talking... i'm pretty sure it had something to do with drugs, in some way or another, i have my theories... all iknow for sure, is this dude shot my brother point-blank range with a shotgun in the midsection, and everyone ran to hide guns and drugs, then they came back to call 911... even after all that my brother was still alive when the first respondant to the call arrived, which was an officer.... according to my mom (who has been known to lie, but for some reason, it seems like my brother in every aspect) lived long enough to tell the officer that he's not telling them shit... knowing the type of family this dude came from (the name is very common and well known for being in this type of shit, drugs, guns and even murder...) i believe it when my mom offered up the possibilty the reason my brother wasn't talking was because he had put threats on my mother and my brother... Originally Posted by Billionfold Originally Posted by Billionfold
 
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	11-15-2006, 07:44 AM #7 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...dude, its perfectly normal for you to cry... i was crying when my bro went to jail...and he was only in for 2 years and one day(put the extra day on to put him in prison instead of just jail) but i think its fine for a grown man to cry. my ex says she thinks its fine to... i mean i was crying when she broke up with me... i cry when i feel the need to.. some times its over everything... some times its over nuthing... some times its just over my fucked up life... wich is actualy starting to look up... but thats fucked up... only 2 years for murder... especialy when my bro gets locked up for 2 years and 1 day for un paid fines. personaly, if you want me to.... call me up, and we will talk a little bit of bussiness about the guys.... 
 
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	11-15-2006, 08:25 AM #8 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 just a question...if you're getting at what i think you're getting at, no... if anyone was to do anything to him, it would be me... as i'm afriad, only the things that could be done to him to make me feel everything just, could only come deep from within the hatred i have for him, only someone close to my brother, that felt the way i did, could have enough fuel, to do what i want done to him.... but as an old saying says, an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, and i believe that... if i were to give this guy what i feels he deserves, then it would just come back, and be a never ending cycle of hunting each other down and making them pay with their life, much in the same fashion you'd expect to see in a movie... no i'm afraid revenge just wouldn't do in this situation... 
 
 only my wife knows this, but right now i feel like sharing... almost every night, i have nightmares, and i mean the kind you can feel, the kind you wake up feeling that deeply rooted fear in, that pain, that agony... i don't know how many people experience it... but say for instance you got a gun pointed at you in your dream, you still FEEL the exact same way you'd feel as if it were real... anyways... i often have those dreams, but i'm always just seconds from being able to save him... i really feel like i'm starting to lose it.. sometimes i feel stronger, but for the most part i feel weaker... i feel weak because i'm not doing a damn thing about it.... i feel like i'm just letting my brother lay in dirt with no justice, because as usual, the justice system apppointed by the government has failed...
 
 i don't know about you guys, but i'd MUCH rather have a convicted crack dealer running around the streets then a convicted murderer... and i know this guy and his family (well of course i've never met the guy or he wouldn't have a face, i'm actually afriad if i ever saw him i'd just lose it, and i mean to a point where i'd eat his flesh or some crazy shit, i'd just totally lose touch with reality...) he will do it again, just like his brothers... i'm usually for giving people a chance to change and having faith they can, but sometimes you just 'know' a person won't change, and you're alway sright... this is one of those instances... in a little under two years (it took nearly a year just for all the bullshit court dates... when he admitted he killed my brother, i really don't understand why it took so long) this guy will be out on the streets again, and he will do it again... maybe not right away, maybe even 20 years from now... but he obviously has no problem wtih someone's death on his conscience... he probably could have even saved my brother if he would have called 911 right when he shot him, rather than running to hide everything...
 
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	11-15-2006, 09:16 AM #9 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...While it may suck, understand that while you may feel screwed by the system, you are one of many and there isn't you can do just sittin' and bein' depressed. If it means that much to you, work to fix it somehow. And don't mourn your bro's death, but rather celebrate his life. Don't be held back by what you did/didn't do/shoulda done, just cherish him in your heart. Remember that he understands and still loves you and always will. Love is eternal, don't be obsessed with mortal triffles. 
 
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	11-15-2006, 12:49 PM #10 Senior Member Senior Member
 just a question...No, I don't believe so. Showing emotion, in this instance crying, either from happyness or sadness I presume in no way makes them physically weaker or emotionally. Perhaps they are even stronger emotionally because they feel they can deal with their emotions by crying rather then hiding them inside and discriminating against people who do cry. I'm sick of this macho-chauvanistic bullshit, if i want to cry i'll do it and i will be no more less of a man then anyone else. I hardly ever cry saying that, but when i do i don't want to or should i feel the need cover it up in case of being labeled as weak or a pussy. Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
 
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