Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I judge the spirit behind slavery, genocide, killing someone for picking up sticks on the Sabbath, and killing gay men to be hateful and outdated. And I judge the spirit of the long list of begats to be extremely boring. Please, direct me to the section of the Bible that has something enlightening that I can apply to my own life. Sure, there's a little bit in there, but it's very ambiguously worded, it has to be translated from ancient Hebrew/Greek, and it sure is surrounded by a lot of sexist, violent filler which also manages to get extreeeeemely boring despite all the disgustingness.
Try Proverbs, or Psalms, or 'some' of John, 1 John, 2 John, theres alot of good stuff if you look, man but you won't find it w/o a willing attitude, sorry.


Are you kidding me? In the Bible, God interferes with what man chooses all the time! Noah's flood, the Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Egyptian enslavement of the Jews, the leading of the Jews over other tribes. That's all interference.
If you choose to believe that....btw, he never interferes with 'choice' it was man's choice to portray God in that manner.

I think if there really was a God, he would want people to know he exists and would want people to know a little bit about who he is. If he can't get off his ass to say anything to us or show himself, how can we possibly know anything about him? An entity about which we know nothing is indistinguishable from a non-existent entity.
I don't need him to prove himself, but I guess others are different. Like I said, I don't think it matters if you 'believe', or not. It's your 'choice'.

What? You need no proof, because the proof you need is all around you? That doesn't make any sense.
I exist, I see a beautiful creation, I see life, birth, death everyday. Why would I need anything more?

So what's the deal with the First Commandment? Jesus was a real big fan of the Ten Commandments, you know.
God IS life...Love life.

It's hard with such a bigoted, hate-filled book.
I know...

I refuse to be part of a religion that has any kind of bullshit in its holy book. How can you even call it a holy book if it's actually a very holey book? I just don't see what's so special about it.
Then don't, I'm certainly not asking you to. You have your Odyssey.

It's badly written, it supports all kinds of barbarisms, and it trails off into a lot of nonsense quite often, and it's got a lot of filler. It just isn't very interesting and I haven't learned any deep moral lessons from it. Don't kill, don't steal, don't lie, that's all cool. But then it says don't look at hot chicks, don't eat shellfish, don't eat bats, don't eat snakes, don't wear two clothes of the same fabric, don't be gay, don't work on the Sabbath, don't do your animal sacrifices incorrectly or God won't like the smell of it, don't marry a divorced woman, don't take a shit in a hole and not cover it up, don't touch a chick when she's on her period, blah blah blah blah blah. It doesn't really sound that divinely inspired to me. A supreme being would definitely be able to come up with much better ideas than that.
Yup, man twisted it up pretty good, huh?


Lots of people believe in love and responsibility. Why not hold Socrates with the same merit. At least Socrates didn't pretend to be God or threaten you with eternal torture if you didn't behave yourself.
I respect all who value these things. I believe the Church had an agenda when pushing the whole fire and brimstone issue...


Well, they're looking in the wrong places. I don't have any hostility towards Christians, I just find Christianity itself to be a bunch of superstitious hogwash mixed with some ambiguous moralities that lends itself too often to fundamentalism and extremism which can have disastrous consequences. Nobody ever started a witch hunt over an obscure passage in the early works of Voltaire, or instigated a Crusade over the eternal divine truth of Immanuel Kant's message to humanity.
I agree, the Bible in the hands of the fearful and true believers can be a dagerous thing.

I just don't see what the big fuss is about Jesus. What was so important that he had to say? Play nice, and be responsible, and ask for forgiveness, or God will kick your ass? Ooh look, I'm God, watch me walk on water? Eat bread and drink wine and pretend you're cannibals eating me? What's so special about that message?

Because it will be 'his' message that helps change the world...The Bible is going nowhere, man. People want to believe in Jesus. People need to believe in Jesus, and his words truly inspire. So does Ghandi, the teachings of Buddha and others of the like mind...


Much Love,
JunkYard Reviewed by JunkYard on . Hardest "Christian" thing to do? What is the number one teaching of Christianity that is the hardest for youto follow? I believe heavily in the teachings of Christ, but like every other human being in the world I "walk the line" like a drunk with a blindfold on. Atheists and agnostics please post your opinions, too; what do you think is the most demanding and spritually testing? Do you think the world would be a better place if more people followed it, or about the same? For me, personally: Love thy enemy. Rating: 5