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11-13-2006, 04:38 AM #21Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
wow that sux. My mom smokes but shes such a hipocrit and doesnt want me to. god luck converting ur mom.
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11-13-2006, 04:56 AM #22Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
Originally Posted by NWDankBudz
Assuming your mom will engage in a intelligent conversation with you.
Try this approach.
How old are you, the older the better.
Start with something like this.
ā??ā?ā?Mom I value you opinion more than almost everyone in the world. And that is why I want to understand it. ā??ā?ā?
Get her to convice you, not you convince her: something like
Why do you think pot is bad? (it isnā??t and there is NO reason out there to)
Literally.
In cuba they actually found that people who smoked ciggs and ā??lotsā? of pot had a significantly reduce rate of cancer!!!
This is because of the drugs effect on the autonomic nerves system. Nicotine contracts blood vessels and THC and other cannabinoids dilate them which increases blood flow.
Anyone who has taken physical therapy will know about the benefits of increasing blood flow. Itā??s kind of the entire point of physical T.
For serious. My GF and I have looked long and hard for studies against MJ. Even looked on the DEA (who by the way literally lies. They make some statement like ā??MJ kills peopleā? then cites a pro MJ study. I guess they get away with it cuz no one checks the citations) Anyhoo there are two correlational studies which are negative. They are mis-stated when ever they are cited. This is because correlational evidence is never CAUSAL unlike how it is presented. They found that drop outs smoke more bud than normal students. They state this fact in such a way that it looks like MJ Causes people to drop out. This is a conclusion that shouldnā??t have been made, it is literally a lie.
BTW it is called the third variable problem if anyone is interested.
The only thing she can say is, it is illegal. (since your doin good in school)
And well you will probably reduce her to this stance.
Then ask her if legality should dictate your morality.
When slavery was legal was it right. And is it wrong now?
If you can convince her that legality is the only problem. Tell her that you understand this and that you accept the risk. AS you are old enough too, hopefully you are.
Then ask if she wants to burn one :rasta:
Good luck:thumbsup:
I will try to check back if you need any backup on a topic
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11-13-2006, 05:34 AM #23Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
your dad just probably did a 180 cuz he caught shit for what you were doing, which i don't think should be a factor in this at all... i mean you couldn't of possibly calculated the risk of it all, but you definately dont' want to shove a wedge between your mother and father... i think you need to have a convo with your dad, about what he feels is right and wrong, and about not just 'fronting' becuase someone important to him feels diffrently then he does.. i also think you need to tell your mom (and yes i'm typing this) to research it for herself, to not just believe the first thing she reads, but research the internet, including govt. bullshit, and norml funded AND APPROVED STUDIES... with so much information flowing back and fourth between the world these days, it can be hard to find what is real, and what is made up... but more usually then not, the study that seems to repeat itsself with the same results over and over (in example: alcohol is more damaging both to the mental psyche and physical body than marijuana is) are more than likely true... especially if funded by completely diffrent sides of the spectrum (i'm making this one up, as it's the only one that sums up every govt. against marijuana) "coalition against mairjuana" and other studies formed by companies and orginsations for marijuana have confirmed this finding...
this is a side note for anyone reading, i'm using pure examples as i can't be bothered (thanks lip, easier then saying i dont' feel like doing it, research for yourself you lazy bastards) to go and find actual case studies that confirm one and another even tho they're on completely diffrent sides of the specturm.
if facts wont' work, then nothing will, period. i can't stress this enough, if someone is so anti-pot that they refuse to listen to any other argument then the ones force fed down their throats for so long, that they won't listen, just to both sides of the story, then nothing you can possibly do is going to make them accept it.... being kicked out sucks, yes, but sometimes being forced to move on is for the best... where you go, what you do is on you, do i actually think they're goign to end up making you leave? no... bu ton the slight case they are, unless you're willing to change everything about you, you just aren't fitting to live with them anymore...
parents don't always agree with what kids do, hell they rarely ever do.... even if that thing they are against is something they did themselves as a kid... more often then not, they think they've gone through some miraculous epiphinay and think they know what's best for you, but mostly, they are just trying to make your life better then theirs was, and can you really blame them? if you had a kid, would you want to make them go through the same pain as you did as a child? of course not, ultimately, you have to realize you're parents are there, mostly to protect you from evil, and anything they find evil, they will do their damnedest to fight against....
can you really blame them for that? it's sad, that an ordinary herb(well ordinary if it weren't for govt.'s of all countries) trying to tell us said herb is bad, splits up families as it does... but it happens and you just happen to be one of the unlucky ones to experience it...
~~~~~~~~~~if you read nothign else of my post read this~~~~~~~~~~~
above all you have to realize your parents are trying to look out for the best for you, they're not trying to just be killjoys and take what you like from you for the hell of it, they see it fit to seperate you from said thing, and you must commend/respect them for that... belive it or not, this is what your parents believe, and they're just trying to protect you, no matter how badly you think they're just trying to ruin your fun... i never had parents, but i know this.... i am now a parent myself, and realize everything i hear about here, and how kids feel about their parents, what the parents must really think about it all... the only way you can get through to these feelings they feel is protecting you, is to show them proof, and honestly, the only way anyone is ever going to believe anything, is if they see it for themselves. about something such as this, that means researching the facts for themselves, as they'll probably just refuse to believe anything you say, or show them....
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11-13-2006, 07:01 PM #24Junior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
What u got to do is make a huge poster with all the postive things about weeda and nail it on the ceiling above their bed so they have to read it.:rasta:
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11-15-2006, 01:54 AM #25Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
Sounds tough, but I don't think they really kicked you out. Like you said the ol' man was in a rage. Go stay with a friends for a few days if you can and leave em wondering what happend to you. How old are you anyway? They can't really kick you out if you arn't 18. It is there house and You gotta respect that. I don't see how family can turn you out or rat you out. I'm blessed in that area. My family will always be there for me and I've given them more then my fair share of white hairs hahaha
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11-15-2006, 02:19 AM #26Junior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
Wow man, your goin through a VERY similar situation to me right now. Except i didnt get kicked out of my house, but I might leave my mothers custody willingly. I got caught with a pipe and my dad had to convince my mom not to call the cops on me, and my dads tite with me smoking. Good luck though man, I wish id of read this post earlier, I convinced my mom that it was ok, but she said as long as its illegal I dont want you doing it, not until im 18. I really shoulda brought up slavery or does the legality of everything dictate morality? good advice man, if I can convince my mom, it should be possible for anyone.
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11-15-2006, 01:10 PM #27Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
Your dad sounds like a douche, I would've beat the shit out of him. I don't care if he was 'in a rage' that's fucking bullshit what he did to you. I'm gonna tell my family I love them and just be thankful for how lucky I am. I hope things work out for you. Good luck.
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11-15-2006, 01:55 PM #28Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
One of my old friends' dad used to smack him around, all the way up until he was 18. Used a belt, threw him down stairs once or twice. He flipped one time whe he was 18 and stabbed his dad up. Not sure if his dad's still alive but he's serving 14 months in prison. Moral of the story is, kill your parents.
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11-15-2006, 02:28 PM #29Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
my mums the same but she wouldnt call the cops as she thinks if i get caught shed get done coz shes still responsible so im ok lol. OK she is one of these ppl that wont listen if it goes against what she belives but she caught me smokin a joint im my room and just told me to smoke it outside. gd luck wiv it and to anyone whos goin thro the same thing
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11-16-2006, 10:49 PM #30Senior Member
Wow...jsut got busted
so how did it go? havent heard an update in a while, maybe his mom killed him
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