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11-11-2006, 08:57 PM #25
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My banning
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
There was a lot of indirect contact with funding, arming, and training provided by the U.S. Government/C.I.A. through the Pakistani ISI. Congressman Charlie Wilson (R) handled/assured funding and was even able to swing deals garnering Israeli support (of all people/places!) for the Mujahideen. C.I.A. opperative Gust Avrakotos handled much of the footwork, including various weapons deals, as well.
"the CIA, as an organisation...", to that I would say the C.I.A. "as an organization" is at heart a "clandestine organization" who considers its most successful missions the ones in which they take (or are given) no credit.
You may also want to check out the name and/or official doccuments relating to Tim Osman.
Or, if your point was "in the 1980s, you'd see that the CIA, as an organisation, had little to no direct or even indirect contact with either Osama bin Laden or the group, Al Qaeda", their contact with bin Laden was officially documented in the mid 80's but "Al Qaeda" did not exist (by that name/form) till the mid to late 90's when we needed a "official name" for the group in order to attempt to hunt/prosecute them under existing anti-organized crime laws. We created/chose the name "Al Qaeda" (in reference to the database of Mujahideen fighters) for that purpose; it wasn't a name that bin Laden created (or even used) to signify himself or his followers then.
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