advice on my small scale grow

[klup]

damn, i was dog sitting at this guys house with my mom. it was like a 3o minute drive from our house and she didnt trust me alone because last time i had a little party while she was there. so i stayed there with her the last couple nights. its actually really nice, he has a little garden and a pond and a litte green house. it was pretty sick backyard, but the inside has a huge plasma flatscreen and surround sound. i watched some movies and live concerts, it was nice. unfortunately i have a very small little LST plant im vegging with a single 27w bulb. i had to set it up in his bathroom, but my mom wouldnt go in there since i was in his room.

short story, he came home early, i was asleep in the guest room since my mom had left, he was pissed i was there, then he found the plant, said he was calling the cops cause he 'knew what this was', i said it was colts foot, i called my friend and he came and got me out of there. later i found out he was a former judge, fuck. he said he knows 'the marijuana' and called my mom. drugs laws are so fucked up

mad rambling

[emmpey]

sorry to hear about that - although I didn't understand most of it I'm sure he wont grass you to the cops for 1 little plant. the cops would think he was time-wasting. he's just trying to scare ya.

[klup]

unfortunately my grow situation changed, so ill be using a 150w 65k flourescent plus 2 26w 65k for veg and a 150w hps and 2 42w 27k for flowering. i was wondering what would be a nice screen size for that, since im going to scrog and basic yield estimates. thanks.

[Abattoir Dream]

cant estimate yeild... it depends how well you grow it

[Volker]

which would be better?

85w/65k/4200 lumens cfl for $20
or
85w/50k/5000 lumens envirolite style for $16

Neither. But if you must use one of those 2, use 4200K. It's the lesser of 2 evils.

4200K is in the yellow/green area, and just about useless.

5000K is in the blue/green area, but is even less usefull than 4200K.

Check this chart for spectral reference.

Use 5200K-7000K (stark white, daylight, and "hotter") for veg, 2200K-2900K (warm white) for bud.

[klup]

wow, so a 55k is better than a 65k?

i was planning on ordering from bghyrdro and i dont see any 55k so ill just use the 65. ive gotten 23w 55k cfls at home depot before, so ill just put some of those in there.

with 250+ watts over a 2x2 screen im hoping to yield around a qp off one plant. seem reasonable at least?

[Volker]

wow, so a 55k is better than a 65k?

Yep. But 5500K is an "oddball" spectrum in flouros: "stark white". If ya got 'em, use 'em. If you can find 'em, I prefer stark white over daylight. Caveat: some "stark white" flouros are 5200K.

with 250+ watts over a 2x2 screen im hoping to yield around a qp off one plant. seem reasonable at least?

Ummm.. 4 sq. ft is spreading 250W of CFT a bit thin. With one plant, depending on the plant, you're probably going to want to limit the CFTs to about a 2 sq. ft area, like maybe 18" x 18". Or only use the center of the screen. Or whatever. I'm using 249W of CFT flouro on my 2 sq. ft scrog w/5 - now 4 (killed a boy) - plants, and am expecting/hoping somewhere around a qp. But will be happy with a joint. The space they're in is 4.5 sq. ft (18" x 36"), but I set the lights to "concentrate" on about 2 sq. ft.

And ya GOTTA keep the plant short.

[klup]

yeah, i know i probably wouldnt need all that screen size, but i thought it would be better to have too much than too little. i plan on cloning so that i can harvest appr. every 2 months, so 3 Os or so every 2 months wouldnt be bad for personal use. would it be better to add another plant in there and use all the screen?

[Volker]

would it be better to add another plant in there and use all the screen?

That really depends on the strain. With something like Lemon Skunk - or other short, squat indica - you could easilly do 4 plants with that screen and 250W of flouro. If you have a sativa dom, you might barely do 1 by LSTing the hell out of it.

[klup]

right now, all i have is bagseed, but i might order 'the church' from drchronic, i think its indica dominant. has anyone ever tried drchronics seeds? they look nice

im trying to 150hps around here but i think ill just have to order it