Hey Guys... New To the Forum, Would Love a little Help!

[BlueBear]

Fokes grow out a hundred at a time with SOG, just depends on weather or not you get tired of the making water, feeding, flushing and monitering for problems. And yes, in SOG a screen is not involved.
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[BlueBear]

Also, let me explaine this to you since no one has commented on it. With SOG you are putting 2 to 4 plants per SQF so under a 5x4 area you could put 40 to 80 plants. With a week veg you may only turn out about 10 grams per plant, maybe a little more. IMO if you only want to grow out 40 and use 2K in lights I would veg them for approx 3 weeks once rooted for best yield or you may only get about 400 grams which is fine, but you should be able to do that with 1000W, and in that case you are kind of waisting a whole 1000W.
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[razzapiggy]

Blue... thank you. Welp, my original plan was buy forty clones, and keep the best thirty most likely. I was then planning to Veg for about two weeks, and then force flower. Do you think two weeks is enough? I got some starter pots, and I wanted to have them in those for a few weeks, and then be able to transplant them directly into the 2-3 gallon pots. I was guessing two weeks would be enough because they will double in size while flowering. You say 2-4 plants per square foot, but most of what I have read says the plants need a full square foot on their own once full grown, is that vegging for the approx. three weeks that you said? I have no problem vegging for three weeks instead of two, but I might need to look into some bigger pots if that's the case. I am also hopeful all the vegging can be done under one lamp as to save money. Also made the home made filter last night, it works very well but is a bit loud. We are looking into different types of fans at this point. This one is 70cfm, and it makes a ton of noise. Any reccomendations?

[BlueBear]

I am not sure what you are reading, but in SOG, like I said 2 to 4 plants per SQF, if you veg for1 to 2 weeks you would see why, you would have these small plants in a big 3 gallon pot and wonder why you didn't put more plants under that light. Also, a larger plant can take up at least 2 SQF easily. You could veg 30 to 40 out for 3 weeks under 1 lamp. The Tricky part is getting pots that fit the FT print under your lamp, but since in veg they will do all right with lower lumen contact you could probably shove about30 to 40 under a 1K light and use 2 liter or half gallon pots if you can find some.
Also, that 70 CFM fan won't do squat to clear the smell and cycle the air in your room. On 2 1000W's you will need a fan that is 500CFM or more. I am not sure if you have ever been in a room with a 1K light, but you are going to have allot of heat coming from the lights, I mean a very significant amount and you will most likely need air cooled hoods which means hoods that have a glass covering the bottom of the hood with a dryer vent attached to the top or side of the hood pulling out the heat from your light with your fans and blowing it into another room or you will need cool tubes which you can read about in the FAQ or you will need a AC unit that is dedicated to that room, or have all of the AC vents in the house shut so that the grow room is the only room receiving the AC. I am not sure if you bargained for all of this, but you want to figure out as much as you can before you start the ball rolling.
I think a 3 week veg time will be good enough for you to get an idea of how these strains will do with more or less veg time. The first grow is more of a learning experience than anything most of the time weather you want it to be or not, you can only guess so much before the grow and people can only tell you so much, but when it comes down to it, it will all depend on your willingness to work with your plants, provide a stress free growing environment and the willingness to really become a grower because if you are just seeing dollar signs you will become very discouraged when you find out that this can take allot of work, more work than many normal 9 to 5's where you can cruze the net, gossip with co workers and slack off and still get a check. There is no slacking here if you want to do it right and your plants don't like being put off, they need certain things and if they don't get it, you don't get their fruits.
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[chicago_white_guy]

absolutely killer bluebear! one quickie though... i thought your roots always grew? if you want bigger plants, use a little root hormone occassionally when you feed the plants and feed them from the bottom up. i might just be confused, but it does make sense

[faithless]

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I thought you meant to be LSTing your SOG. Bit stoned and wasn't thinking too clearly anyway.

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[razzapiggy]

Once again, great post - loving all the help.

To begin, I was told the hood I bought was air cooled, however it does not have glass on it... not sure what this means. The 70CFM fan is going to be used in conjunction with other fans, and I was told I could most likely get through the winer without too many heat problems running 2000 watts - it sounds to me like you do not agree with that statement. I live in Northern California, cold nights, rainy days that are generally pretty cold as well. My ventilation is going into the attic, and I am pulling cold air from the heat/ac vent in the floor of the room. I was under the impression the ventilation, coupled with a few different fans would keep the temps down enough... again, it sounds to me like you are reccomending a cool tube or something like that? The pots I currently have are 100sq MM tall, I believe I need to get larger ones. Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.

[BlueBear]

Well, if the people who you are talking to have experience with your climate, and growing in it under similar conditions then they may have a better chance to help guide you, I don't know them, for all I know they may have twice the knowledge as me. If you are venting the hot air into the attic then that will be a big help right off of the top, you just need a decent fan to do it with. The AC and the cooler temps are both a plus.
Let us know how it works out, and yes a cool tube should be considered as a back up option.
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[razzapiggy]

Thanks, Blue. You are a humble guy! :rasta: Yeah the friend who is guiding me a little bit has grown in this climate for years, and he said he thought the temps will be fine, he even mentioned I might not even need to pull cold air from outside during the winter, especially if the door to the room can stay open a fair amount (which it can) I am going to chat with him a bit later before I make a final choice. I however am taking your reccomendation to get bigger pots so I can veg for longer. I agree three weeks would be ideal. Thanks and hope you have a good and stoney day!

[BlueBear]

Not a problem bro, keep us posted, I always like learning from others and so on.
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