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[fikusroot]

I'm talking about when you die. you cant go insane when you die because you dont have a brain. When we die, it's kind of like we become little Gods. We cannot understand as mortals, thus we become God like to gain understanding. It is this experience where all of our human preconceptions about life and reality are shattered and we become totally imersed in the truth. We are no longer ourselves, we do not have our personality because nobody's personality is perfect. Instead, we transend and in that trancendence is a joy and happiness that extends beyond our primitave notions of joy and happiness that come from interactions of chemicals in the brain. It's hard to understand and even I can really only get my mind around it if I'm on acid.

[JunkYard]

We are conscious beings, but is this only because we have a brain? I think the universe is a conscious universe. Hell, even cells seem to have a conscious existence.

Maybe the brain = ego, and it simply distorts our pure conscious state.

Just a thought...

[wayoftheleaf]

Ah yes fikus but at the same time the human consious cannot grasp what you are saying for we have not yet transcended into this state. Therefore it is impossible to determine The true effects of what would, or could, be possible in this new, altered state of reality. Who is to say that the actual point that we transcend into this persona of near, or exact godliness that we ourselves do not become insane allowing us to see and comprehend?

[Lucifuge]

^^That fat kid in your avatar looks retarded

[Lucifuge]

As does your FACE!!1!!!111! bwahahaha

Seriously.

[Inferius]

Lucifuge, you do realize that IS wayoftheleaf don't you?

I liked the church idea until you started listing standard morals.

Now, about the after-life... wayoftheleaf was making sense... With our perceptions as of now we can't comprehend the actual transcendence. It can only be speculation. And as god-like beings, we wouldn't really exist "in" time. Infinity would be more of a relative idea, and this is where things get reallllly hazy. Time is such a key concept in our perception, to remove it is mind-shattering. Think about it. There is no then or now or later. It is simply "all".

I dunno... I think everything after the act of transcendence is incomprehensible, and any speculation, although fun, is completely irrelevant to the reality.
I would like to continue a conversation like this after attaining enlightenment through meditation, and while on acid... I think that's the only way for us to REALLY reach that next level of understanding.

[wayoftheleaf]

i personally think that insanity is obtained through grasping the concept of something we just simply cannot understand. The human mind CAN NOT grasp eternity, this is impossible for us to do. we can say that there has always been planets, but whenever i say that i am thinking in my head but what in the hell started it. How could something be here forever doesnt everything have a begining? unless you believe ina circular age theory which i guess could happen. but even that doesnt fully explain what began the universe.

[harris7]

If you attempt to build a church on another foundation then that which has been laid, you'll be preaching a false gospel just like every other religion.

Religion is man made. It's the blind leading the blind. So I'm sure all your members will be wearing sunglasses. :smokin:

Jesus is the rock of the foundation of Christianity. It can't be moved.

saying religion is man made is only a criticism if the religion claims otherwise. As christainity does. As well i am surprized to hear you say that all religious preach false gospels.
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[JunkYard]

Ah yes fikus but at the same time the human consious cannot grasp what you are saying for we have not yet transcended into this state. Therefore it is impossible to determine The true effects of what would, or could, be possible in this new, altered state of reality. Who is to say that the actual point that we transcend into this persona of near, or exact godliness that we ourselves do not become insane allowing us to see and comprehend?

Define insanity...

:smokin:

[wayoftheleaf]

insanity, i believe, is the seperation of the physical and metaphysical consciousness. This allow the person to grasp the concepts that the person could not before grasp. At the same time this level ofg understanding makes it near impossible to follow the reality that we live in to your fullest extent.