nutes, i have looked but...

[Pezzo]

i have looked but not found what i wanted, if u have nutrients in ur soil do u need fertilizer? And y is miricale grow a bad idea

Pezzo Reviewed by Pezzo on 11-08-2006. nutes, i have looked but... i have looked but not found what i wanted, if u have nutrients in ur soil do u need fertilizer? And y is miricale grow a bad idea Rating: 5

[busteruk7]

miracle grow is a bad idea cause it contains slow release nutrients
not good and can cause real probs for the ganja grower
but i have also seen a few people that have had good grows with it
do a search on it
cheers all

[babystarbud]

i recently had the same problem...i could only find general fert like 10-10-10 or bloom fert like 5-15-15...couldnt find a nitrogen rich one...closest i found was 7-3-7

i think in future ill just buy online so i can et exactly what i want.

the problem with having nutrients in the soil is that you can get sudden unexpected doses of fert, when your adding extra liquid fert it can make things a bit unpredictable.
if you get soil designed for seedlings/cuttings it will have only mild ammounts of fert compared to others, so thats probably your safest bet.

my last grow was done all the way through with miracle grow "moisture control for pots and baskets" soil and was a sucsess. however i did have burn problems towards the end when stacking extra bloom fert on top during flowering.... i didnt use any fert during veg. luckily harvest time came before the buds were affected but it destroy most leaves on one of my plants....just lucky timing i guess.

my current skywalker seedlings i actually put in the same miracle grow soil straight after germination( i had some left over) and are doing great, but im not going to use it when i re-pot them.
there are also quite a few different types of miracle grow soil... i think some are obviously more suitable than others.

[Pezzo]

i got compost and added perlite and wormcastings myself im usein q strength MG solution (mixed with fish pond water lol and carbonated water)

[stinkyattic]

i got compost and added perlite and wormcastings myself im usein q strength MG solution (mixed with fish pond water lol and carbonated water)

Lose the carbonated water, you're adding carbonic acid and you'll have problems.
Fish water -a little, not too too much- is good as long as the pond is 'healthy', not too much ammonia. That can also kill your plants.
Cheap effective ferts that aren't miracle grow:
Shultz bloom plus
Shultz cactus food
Alaska fish fert
Tomato food for veg
Miracle grow is pretty low quality and will eventually give you salt buildup problems.
Spring for it and go get yourself some Botanicare Pure Blend- it's worth it in the long run, really!
Compost is awesome though. Keep that in your mix!!! If you have a compost heap, I'd suggest watering it with your fish water instead of using it directly on your plants so it has a chance for the nitrogen to go into a plant-friendly form... lots of oxygen... should be as nitrate-N not nitrite or heaven forbid ammonia!

[Pezzo]

thanx stinkyattic ur full of info whats better tap water or fish water? or rain water? ( i colect barrow fulls of rain water and fill up the fish pond then take water from the filter when i need it.)

[stinkyattic]

This might surprise you.... tap water is fine! Rain water will need to have CalMag added to it. Fish water is probably somewhere in between, with pluses and minuses... might be inconsistent, contains some nutes but at different levels and in different forms depending upon temperature, fish activity, fish feeding schedules, oxygen in the pond, etc... and that can make it hard to dial in your nutes. That's why adding it to the compost heap is so much easier!!! Rain barrels are cool, just check the ppm and pH and see what they look like. Personally I use plain unadjusted tap water ever since I got my LEAF HUMUS compost /cow manure/ perlite thing going... haven't had a pH problem since. The humus has gret buffering properties!!