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    #11
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    Rumsfeld Resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Martinez
    You went out of your way to say you don't like how the president of your school is trying to diversify the student body?....uhhh....

    "Liberalism is a mental disorder...proven."

    Show me the study.

    "We don't play the blame game...pussies"

    It's the media's fault that we're so fucked in Iraq, it's Liberals' fault that terrorism exists today, and it's Muslims' fault that their own people blow themselves up for freedom from America....I thought you didn't play the blame game?
    Let me clarify:

    Texas A&M was founded as an all male military college in 1876; the first public university in Texas. Women were not officially allowed to attend until 1963. (strangely long after black students were allowed) Having said that I will concede that we have a murky history with regard to diversity. But that does not condone the recruiting tactics employed by the University today. Robert Gates has continued an initiative that began before he came here to A&M. Vision 2020 is its PR name, it is basically a mission statement which decrees the need for a cookie cutter student body and faculty. They even went as far to make goals for the percentage of minority students and faculty that they would like to see by the year 2020. I have no problem with minorities going here, I have no problem with them applying here. I have a problem with us turning away really enthusiastic students because they are not diverse enough. I have a problem with paying full tuition, with no aid whatsoever while Black and Mexican students are aggressively recruited with a seemingly endless source of scholarships. It seems to undermine all of the principles that I came here to learn: Supply and Demand, All people created equal, etc. I would like the application process to be a free market, isn't that how are economy would ideally be. I guess this whole time I haven't been a conservative, I've been an idealist, but aren't we all.

    And to address your other comment even though it wasn't addressed to me: America does blame people, but don't forget we are at war, failure is not an option. No matter who is responsible for our conflict in the middle east we must now solve it. If we are not successful in returning victorious the consequences will be dire. And not even Karl Rove can spin that inconvenient truth.

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Rumsfeld Resigns

    Well, here's one for Rummy.........
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD180...elated&search=

    Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Rumsfeld Resigns

    We're not at war. Congress hasn't declared war, and if you speak of Iraq, Bush declared victory years ago. Wars require that you have a realistic goal and, when you achieve it, you declare victory and go home. If we ARE in a war, where is the declaration from Congress, who are we declaring war against, and what are the attainable goals we need to achieve for it to end? Eradicating every last person who desires to harm the U.S. from the face of the planet is not an achievable goal, by the way.

    Words are powerful things. Just because politicians use the word 'war' frivolously (war on terrorism, war on drugs) does not mean that we are actually at war. They use that word purposefully sometimes too, in an effort to make you believe that it is true. Wars are fought against human enemies you can point to, or at least name, not ideologies, and not chemicals.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Rumsfeld Resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by jamstigator
    "...Wars require that you have a realistic goal and, when you achieve it, you declare victory and go home. If we ARE in a war, where is the declaration from Congress, who are we declaring war against, and what are the attainable goals we need to achieve for it to end? Eradicating every last person who desires to harm the U.S. from the face of the planet is not an achievable goal, by the way..."
    1) What year did we leave Germany?
    2) What year did we leave Japan?
    3) Furthermore when did we leave Europe after rebuilding it?
    4) How long did it take the Fed. Gov. to readmit and reconstruct the south after the Lincoln destroyed it?

    Answers: 1) We haven't 2) We haven't 3) Were still giving them money and we are still there 4) Georgia the last state to be readmitted, was not until July 15, 1870; over 8 years after the final official battle?

    Conclusion: In every American war we have followed through on our responsibility to stabalize any countries we have devastated, including our own. Some times it took 10 years, some we are still working on. Additionally, did you all forget about H.J.Res.114, the resolution that was passed by both repubs and democrats to authorize the U.S. military to invade Iraq? Even John Kerry voted for it before he voted against it.

    We are at War. Debating that point would be ridiculous, the only thing that must now be decided are our tactical strategies, which our Commander and Chief and his staff are responsible for. Let them do their jobs. This is the first war of the 21st century, conventional warfare may not work. Our enemy is everywhere and so must we.

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Rumsfeld Resigns

    Dear Rumsfeld,
    Goodbye and good riddance.
    Don't let the mess you made hit you on the way out.
    Sincerely,
    Me

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