scrog 44

[faithless]

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Come to think of it, the guy I got my clones from had a T44 about 4 foot tall. It was looking rather spindly and not much foliage, but it was quite branchy.
Whether it was that way because he wasn't taking good care of it or not, I don't know. He had it under a 400W HID, but his temps were around 33C.
He said himself that he knew it was too tall and he was just experimenting and mucking around with it.

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[BuddyLove]

33c yikes!!!

far from ideal my summer buds were absolute shite compared with the winter grow temps were 30+

so come april ill need a cool tube or a heat sheild like yours

hows the plastic fantastic working out ? have you now got both lights tannin you girls now ?

[faithless]

The plastic has got the temps down about 2- 3c, from 29-ish to 26-ish. Theres about a 10cm gap all the way, which is allowing some heat to get by on the sides I think. I would have prefered to have it fit completely.

From my calculations, which may well be off, I'm losing about 1200 lumens, like a 20W cfl, which doesn't seem too much, and I'm hoping the lower temp
is worth it.
I don't think I'll be able to stuff the other lamp up, though I haven't tried, mainly because 650W for 3 plants seems like overkill, considering the electricity bill...

I'm hoping to be allowed to put a big old closet in a friends garage, in which case all 800W go up.

Just bought 30 quid of wire fence to scrog with and gave it up after half an hour. It's gonna take a bleeding whole day to push all those buds through, what with the working position being rather awkward and stuff.

Should have started that much earlier, I think.

[BuddyLove]

we live and learn mate

[faithless]

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Indeed. Though I plan to use it on the next round.

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[BuddyLove]

yeh its worth a try
youll be able to see the results of my effort anyway
i may be wrong about them being too stumpy its just the way mine grow
the side branches are really short and thick
also id idealy like to keep the hps on 1212 constant and just move plants from the veg to the hps when theyre about 14" in 6.5l pots with a view to havein 2 600w grow rooms an a 250w cfl veg cab with a harvest every 3-4 weeks
im thinkin 12 1, 1/2-2oz plants under a 600w gona pick up my pots and more coco this week and give it a go after crimbo
does this sound like a workable plan ?

[Splifted]

Just bought 30 quid of wire fence to scrog with and gave it up after half an hour. It's gonna take a bleeding whole day to push all those buds through, what with the working position being rather awkward and stuff.

Should have started that much earlier, I think.

Haha, you two have me confused on the whole scrog concept. I always thought you put the screen on early in veg and let the plant grow sideways under it, which makes it grow more tops just like LST'ing then you flower once you get the screen filled.

Oh yeah guys, don't forget to check my log late this evening, going home to check on the girls and take some new pics today is day 14 of flower :dance:

[faithless]

the side branches are really short and thick

Well, thats supposed to be a charactristic of T44, so it's probably correct.
Mine have been so heavily LST'd though, so I can't really tell.
To me, the rest of your plan sounds great, though I wonder if 6 liters is enough for 14" veggies? Mine were about 14" when they went in to flowering in 8 kilos of soil each, and I'm wondering if the pot size will make it to the end of flowering...

Splifted, you're right, I was hoping that my LST's would be able to get scrogged this late, I only thought of doing that a few days ago, because I was getting tired of tucking leaves and always finding a new bud top that was being obscured.
I tuck every day, but if I went and had a look now, I'd still find 10 small tops that are being hidden amongst my 3 gals.

My expereince now is that it would be a huge hassle to scrog this late in the game.

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[BuddyLove]

when i first started this thread mega said train well then drop on the screen and place the shoots in the desired holes
this should work well for this strain as its not a shooter like some types of weed which would require lots of training of the side branches
the idea of a screen is to equate the light distrubution to the bud sites but i feel without toping early on a plant may still be inclined to grow a main cola

as for the 6.5 litre pots in the hydo shop u get 6.5 + 11 litre square pots for the hydro systems now the last 2 grows when ive pulled out the root ball although filling solid the top 3-4" and the bottom 2-3" theres still a lot of space in the centre of the pot
im not sure but im thinking about 6.5l would be ok for a 2'-2,1/2' plant
t44 flowered at 14 " finished at 30"
chronic flowered at 14" grew well over 5' and was 3-4x the width of the 44 and had 5x the side growth

a few years ago i worked with a guy who kept telling me of this 80 plant grow him an his mates had when he lived in dam told me all this bollox special techniqs industrial fans on the roof and the like said it took 4 grows bfore they got a crop that was worth top dollor to the coffe shops got em to grow just one main bud the size of a rugby ball

of coarse im like yeh yeh yawn yawn

then he broght his photo album in and i was like what the fuk
no shit this fellas sat cuddling a bud like a baby! in a room full of plants from the little shop of horrors they were really stumpy with a fukin huge cola

wish i could track him down an get some tips off him

but until i do ill just keep tryin my own experiments searching for the best way of growin super buds

sorry for ramblin

pissedup buddy :stoned:

[Splifted]

Ah, i see. That makes more sense. I can't wait to see it in full flower, nothing beats a sea of bud.