5 Strains, First Grow

[Racerx]

They look like maybe youve got a little to much water. Consider pulling back the schedule a little to help with the oxygen. Im not a table pro but that would be my gut.

On a side note, for the future, you might consider limiting yourself to less strains. Each strain tends to like slightly different conditions. Most specifically, not all strains like the same nutrient schedule or levels. Having made this mistake before, I had to compromise which kept both plants from reaching their full potential. One strain loved a high ppm of like 1600-1700. Another strain in the same nutrients could barely handle 1200. I had to do around 1300 and deal with a little burn and a little deficiency, learned my lesson there. You also will deal with the strains growing at different rates and different styles (bushy vs tall), so you will not be taking full advantage of your light spread.

With 2 tables, I would do 2 different strains. That way...if there is a problem, it is much easier to diagnose it instead of some strains being afflicted and others not being afflicted. You will have more uniform growth and they will be easier to tend.

Good luck! Love the room, looks very clean and nice.

Racerx Reviewed by Racerx on 11-07-2006. 5 Strains, First Grow I was on another website documenting my grow but I didnt get enough Guidance. This is my first grow and im having a few problems I hope you guys can help. For reference ill list some of my gear. 2 600HPS 1 2 tray 3x3 GH Ebb & Flow tables 6 40 Watt floros Nutrients: Rating: 5

[Inspector420]

Racerx,

I really appreciate the response! First Id like to say when I decided to try to grow I made alot of hasty decisions. Like when I ordered seeds I just bought like 5 strains figured id keep some mothers around and grow them as I wanted to. I agree with you on growing less strains I regret it. Ice has been the worst to me Ive only got 2 in cubes out of 10 seeds So there is something I did that Ice doesnt like that the rest do.. But your comments are right on Im just nervous becuase I dont want to waste my money, the same thoughts as any first time grower suppose. Now I understand to suggest bag seed to a new grower. Or maybe im just making it complicated. Thats crazy that the ppm can vary that much on strain to strain!

Now... yesterday when Abattoir Dream suggested that it might be over watering the fist thing I did was sqeeze all the cubes to get excess water out. Then I used paper towels on the peat core to soak some water out. You know I havents watered them since that was suggested. I guess I wont even bother to water untill the leaves droop down or something.

I have no fans BTw ive been trying to find some cheap ones the last few days but its winter now and there are none in stock lol

Appreciate all the help guys

Ill have some new pics the next few days of the first ones that get on the drip I see atleast 4-5 leaders of the pack in this bunch. They are all females buhda told me so jk

I-420

[Bachelorpads]

over watering is definitely the most likely culprit. I wouldn't do much squeezing out of the cubes, just don't water them as much. The roots when they first start break pretty easy.

Well, first thing first, you need to just let these babies get big enough to take some clones and find out who the chicks are. Once you have a confirmed lady, it is on. Clone off of her like mad and fill the system. I would say that right now you have about 5 times as many plants as you should have started with.

With 2 600's, you should be able to get 1lb per table so your goal won't be too difficult to hit at all.

I always recommend SCROG because of the hieght control that it offers. So i recommend looking into that when the time comes (which is a ways off)

[Inspector420]

over watering is definitely the most likely culprit. I wouldn't do much squeezing out of the cubes, just don't water them as much. The roots when they first start break pretty easy.

Well, first thing first, you need to just let these babies get big enough to take some clones and find out who the chicks are. Once you have a confirmed lady, it is on. Clone off of her like mad and fill the system. I would say that right now you have about 5 times as many plants as you should have started with.

With 2 600's, you should be able to get 1lb per table so your goal won't be too difficult to hit at all.

I always recommend SCROG because of the hieght control that it offers. So i recommend looking into that when the time comes (which is a ways off)

There hasnt be 100% recovery yet on the damged ones. But I noticed the newer leaves on the ones in question look more normal. I really dont think ill use peat pellets again in the future, but being new and not having to put chemicals to start, appeals to me.

2lb geez I really dont think ill be able to doit Thanks for giving me goal to shoot for though

And when the time comes Id be more than willing to do SCROG if you guys are willing to help me out.

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Day 16

Ok update time.. I know its only been a few days but I like pics and I know members do too

I have an 8-9 gallon res for this table in the pic. What I did was put half strength Ionic grow and also some 1/2 strength voodoo juice. I put all canidates that had 3-4 sets of leaves on drip. WHen I did a reading on the water I had a cf of .8 - 1.0 and a ppm of 500. And imediately I noticed them grow and seem happy. I initially had a 6.5 ph but today it was 7.5 , so it shot up. I then corrected the ph and curious if it will stay the same when I check tomorrow. Im having an issue of keeping the humitity below 80% and would like it even lower. It seems from all the things ive read High humitity and stress makes males Are these plants stressed?

Thx for the support I appreciate it alot

[JackdaWack]

U really dont need any nutes for a month, i ussually start my nutes when my plants are about 8" high, starting at 1/2 strength. you just need to make sure your not over watering... i wouldnt worry about what they look like until there about a half foot. Ive had mis-shapped seedlings grow into beautiful babes

[Inspector420]

U really dont need any nutes for a month, i ussually start my nutes when my plants are about 8" high, starting at 1/2 strength. you just need to make sure your not over watering... i wouldnt worry about what they look like until there about a half foot. Ive had mis-shapped seedlings grow into beautiful babes

Im doing it wrong? I should stop nutes? They seem to like it alot they are growing

Please advise me...

The goal here is to grow them under these floros for as long as possible, im in no hurry to fire up my 600's ... Whats the max time you think under these 6 40 watt floros, aprox 13000 lumens I believe.

I-420 Peace

[JackdaWack]

well. nutes are up to you, every one has told me to wait a month which isnt what i do, i get my veggin organic formula out when the plants have about 3 sets of leaves. I start really low and build up to 1/2 strength, then as they get more leaves i increase the stength in small increments. So im not sure if the success rate here is due to organic nutes, because i know there are differences. My organic nutes are alot more concentrated to i used alot less then recomended but since its all natural the plant loves it, if not to much nutes are added. So just keep it simple if u want to use some nutes for now keep it low stressing the seedlings now is very bad.

I would keep them under fluoros until they look as if they have out grown them. Ex. if the bottom branches dont look like they are getting enough light switch to you m/h or hps, i think its better to atlease have an hps runnin opposed to a couple fluoros just getting the tops of the plants. But u do want to use the fluoros for as long as possible, they really create a good light source for the seedlings, no heat, better overall spectrum coverage. How ever if they only cover half the plant, then ur not gonna be getting enough light.

[JackdaWack]

m/h seems to be out of the grow circle, im probably gonna get my teeth kicked in for sayin that but it seems so. alot of ppl are using the cfl's for the entire vegging cycle which is ok if u got enough of them 6 of them would work for a large grow, the m/h creates heat and uses alot of electricity, not sure wich one gets better results i would think the m/h. but either way u have to use the fluoros for atleast 2 weeks i would say. then decide wether or not to use the mh you could use both. that would be cool if you could set them up maybe do an expierment, put some under one some under the other, i saw ur room, u got alot to work with might aswell put some of it to use. this way u gain knowlege and u too can help others out when in need. theres no better answer then the ones growing right in front of you.

[bejay]

you need nutrients just at a very reduced strength a ppm of 300- 400 is common for seedlings you should try to keep your ph between 5.5 to 6.1 range.
losing the peat pellets would be a wise choice would suggest starting in the smaller rockwool cubes instead.

[Inspector420]

Bejay,

Thank you for jumping threads with me Bejay I did read your responce on the other thread as well. Im in the process of lowering the ph now Ill get it somewhere in between what you mention. I assume it they dont need the nutes that are locked out at this ph level? The peat pellets as I mentioned before was just something I purchased at the beginning and they appealed to me because I didnt have to add chemicals and stuff. They are annoying for just the simple fact that they make my res dirty

Jack,

Thx for the reply Im glad I can use the floros for a long period if I decide. I look at some of the grows on here and they are using very low light of lumens I find this amazing. Id say when they get hit with 1200 watts of light we should see a major explosion in growth. Im looking forward to that day in the future.

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Day 18

I have some observations Id like to make. Notice at this point I have about 27 cubed up plants and rememer I started with 50 seeds. I have learned from my mistakes. At the beginning I thing I should of used more paper toweles and distilled water, since out of the tap the water is around 8 ph. Also I had them way to wet I believe and I think I got this disorder Zandor mentions in this FAQ thread http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=36996 .

Now.. Ive included more pics Im not that great with this camara not sure why I cant take a good pics Notice the northern light plant with the mishapen leaves, dont get me wrong it is growing, just not the prettiest thing. This due to the overwateringom the info Ive gathered from you all. If I didnt have help I would of assumed this is a calsium defeciancy, thx.

I added a few more canidates to drip. I have them set for 2-3 times per day. The drippers are 2 gallons per hour BTW. That one AK-48 and Ice are blowing the rest of them away. And notice the bag seed (BS) wow not what I expected, I added those later as a joke. Its a sativa for sure just looking at the leaves. Im not sure what the future will be for it, if its a female regardless I might not beable to grow it becuase of the hieght.

Well thats all for now thx all :thumbsup: