GOD IS EVIL OR Not allpowerful

[harris7]

There's nothing to be scared of my friend! If only people realised that this life that we lead is nothing but the beginning of everything. When we die, it is our souls time to leave our body and continue to the next step.

If you want to know more, the website is waiting for you.

When I said â??you scare the fuck outa meâ?�

I didnâ??t mean it like.. Iâ??m so enlightened.

I was going more along the lines of. It scares me that people can believe such crazy things. IT fucking scares me

No offence.

It does interest me though

[ChronoSponge]

I''m pretty sure that Hitler made up his own laws. And I'm pretty sure he sentenced them to life of anguish and death if they were'nt "right" in his eyes. How is God any different?

[JunkYard]

These things only sound crazy because the society we were brought up in has crafted humans to believe that this world isn't going to end.

That's not true. It is largely theorized that one day the sun will burn the earth to a crisp, therefore ending our world.

When you think about it, humans have only lost touch with the spiritual side to life in the last few hundred years. For the thousands of years before that, life was a spiritual journey.

Modern society is the downfall of everything right.

I'll agree with this, only spirituality is taking on new seekers all the time. Also, I'm not sure that modern society is the downfall of everything "right". There are many good things about modern society, imo. For one, people aren't nearly as uptight, or cruel as we once were. In Biblical times, people were stoned to death for commiting adultery...Not that it's right to commit adultery, but a person shouldn't be stoned to death for it, imo.

What say you?

Or rather, what would your living Jesus say?

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"

[harris7]

yea. I think that a lot of religious people look back to the highly spiritual days and see it as being so positive and sin free.

I think it is exactly the opposite.

when i went through my history classes i truly got a wonderful insight into what religion is. It's a tool for those in power to extend there power.

Remember back in the day were if you committed a crime, and you were poor, they would make you hold a red hot pole. Your hands would burn and then be bandaged.

something like 1 week later they would remove the bandages.

if your hands were healed then god is showing that you are innocent.
if your hands were still healing, I think everyone’s were, then you were guilty

This system was only applied to the poor. A knight on the other hand if accused of ANYTHING even rape (was this even bad then...) murder.
he would swear on the bible that he is telling the truth. and he would be set free

because if he lied he would burn in hell. Sounds like a system that i would like if i was a knight

[harris7]

and now you'll say. Thats not what jesus wanted. Thats what the church wanted

[stinkyattic]

and now you'll say. Thats not what jesus wanted. Thats what the church wanted

And then we will reply that the Church then, as now, claims to be speaking God's word.

Hey Harris... remember the witch-dunking chair too... If she drowned, she was innocent. If not, she was a witch and sentenced to be burned.

[Euphoric]

is god evil? maybe god has a dark, polar opposite. perhaps everything has an "evil twin" resides in a parallel universe.

either that or the answer to the question "can god create something that even he cannot control?" is pretty obvious by looking at the sad state of things.

OR maybe we are all simply experiencing a dark age, which is part of the master plan.

[JunkYard]

I read this in a book the other day and thought is was interesting.

"Even if you think you hold the ultimate truth in your hands, there is no guarantee that you will escape from evil. More violence has occured in the name of religion than for any other reason. God handed down the truth, and the Devil said. "Let me organize it."

Organized religion has its good points, but by and large it has been a failure.

"Idealistic and loving people who would never harm another have found themselves in the maelstrom of war. Faiths that preach the existence of one God mount campaigns to kill infidels. Religions of love devolve into into partisan hatred of heretics and those who threaten their faith." ---> Deepok Chopra

Why does this happen is my question?

Is evil really that powerful?

[mfqr]

His judgments are righteous? god is in control of everything. tell me whats so righteous about living in poverty and shit like that. Look at this God created satan. He created evil he lets evil run amok. He can stop evil at anytime but he doesn't cuz he doesn't care or doesn't exist. Your god abandoned you? or your god never really existed in the first place.

I agree with you completely.

If God is good, and is so righteous, then why would he not stop the suffering? He has infinite power, and yet he cannot destroy Satan right away? And after he supposedly does destroy Satan, there's only going to be one thousand years of peace? Why one thousand years when it could be eternity? Why make people suffer? If he's all powerful, and does indeed exist, then I don't think he's a righteous God.

Here are my thoughts: religion uses God and Jesus as tools to control the masses, and keep people under control. Religion is just as much bullshit as propaganda on cannabis. You're not supposed to be materialistic in nature, and yet those whom are high up in the "hierarchy" of churches are very rich, and have mansions and luxury cars. Sure, religion teaches morals... but we can have morals without religion. Catholic priests? If they're so in tune with God and religion, then why has it been known for them to molest little boys? If there is a God, I'm certain that it is a God we have never spoken of, heard of, or imagined.

[JunkYard]

I agree with you completely.

If God is good, and is so righteous, then why would he not stop the suffering? He has infinite power, and yet he cannot destroy Satan right away? And after he supposedly does destroy Satan, there's only going to be one thousand years of peace? Why one thousand years when it could be eternity? Why make people suffer? If he's all powerful, and does indeed exist, then I don't think he's a righteous God.

First you assume there is a Satan, and second you assume that the Bible God is responsible. I assume you too have been force fed these concepts by the flock?

Here are my thoughts: religion uses God and Jesus as tools to control the masses, and keep people under control. Religion is just as much bullshit as propaganda on cannabis. You're not supposed to be materialistic in nature, and yet those whom are high up in the "hierarchy" of churches are very rich, and have mansions and luxury cars. Sure, religion teaches morals... but we can have morals without religion. Catholic priests? If they're so in tune with God and religion, then why has it been known for them to molest little boys? If there is a God, I'm certain that it is a God we have never spoken of, heard of, or imagined.

I agree, but I would think that people experience God everyday. The Bible God has been turned into a sadistic diety, imo. I don't view God, or my idea of God, in that light. Humans created the Bible God with their mind, and gave him human attributes. God, if there is one, is nothing more, and nothing less than the creative force of this universe, as well as its opposite all rolled into one, imo.

I think God is the universal consciousness...

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