Potentially big harvest

[AllStar]

a friend of mine is allowing me to run his grow for him at his house so this is a huge opputunity for me to grow a lot of dope for free basically!
Here's a list of the space and equipment available:
-1000w Hps (1)
-1000w MH (2)
-400w mh (1)
-Fans (variety of sizes)
-Pots (5 gallon, or milk crates)
-3 seperate rooms (possibly 4)

This grow is going to be prurely commercial so we want to bring in as often and as much as we can. I was thinking the best way would be to grow SOG, with moderate LST. Just not sure how many plants to grow and what the best way is to start setting up a SOG. All the rooms are ready to grow in, except we need a heat source in one of the rooms, which is the room we plan to flower in, simply because it has the best sealage(?) from outside light. With the lights available how many plants should I clone/veg/flower per room and with which lights?
What do you think about cloning with the 400w MH, vegging with one 1000w MH, and flowering with a 1000w Hps along with a 1000w MH?
My partner has great success every year with his outdoor grows and mild with indoor, however with what I've learned from being on here about harvesting, training, and lighting, we would like to yield 3lbs per harvest.
What do you think is the best way possible to come close with what I have to work with??

Thanks!
-AllStar

AllStar Reviewed by AllStar on 11-02-2006. Potentially big harvest a friend of mine is allowing me to run his grow for him at his house so this is a huge opputunity for me to grow a lot of dope for free basically! Here's a list of the space and equipment available: -1000w Hps (1) -1000w MH (2) -400w mh (1) -Fans (variety of sizes) -Pots (5 gallon, or milk crates) -3 seperate rooms (possibly 4) This grow is going to be prurely commercial so we want to bring in as often and as much as we can. I was thinking the best way would be to grow SOG, with Rating: 5

[Anathema2121]

If you have 3 rooms use 1 for moms & starting clones, 1 for vegging clones, and 1 for flowering. Just start a batch every week to eventually have a perpetual harvest of a few plants at a time to keep a constant flow and not have tons to trim at once. End up harvesting say 10 plants a week instead of 100 every 8 weeks if you have room for 100 plants (in a SOG). I don't think you need to LST with a SOG, in fact you want single cola plants. You should cut off all the lower branches that don't receive light so it focuses all its energy on that top bud. You shouldn't veg long at all before flowering in a SOG, just enough to get good roots and a few inches tall.

[AllStar]

Thanks for your reply, just slightly confused about something.
How many plants would I be flowering at a time in the flowering room? And would it be with both the 1000w MH & HPS or just HPS. If i understand what you mean correctly, I would have let's say 30 plants in the room at a time, 10 plants that are 7-8 weeks, 10 plants that are 5-6, and 10 that are 3-4 weeks or freshly flowering. These numbers are rough because I really have no idea what the best amount for which lights is.
Thanks again!
-AllStar

[Pass That Shit]

How about vegging in the room that needs heat? If you veg for 24hrs, the light will provide the heat.

[AllStar]

Yea I was thiking about doing that. Would I be better to veg in that room with 1000w MH, and flower in another with 2000w of MH and HPS?

[AllStar]

Does anyone else have any ideas for me? I'm really curious as to if it would be beneficial to flower under 1000w hps and a 1000w mh, and if so how many plants can I expect to harvest?
Thanks again!

AllStar

[dusto2k3]

Dude, i have 1 1000w hps and it fills a room 4.5' x 4.5'. Right now i have about 15 plants in there.

Flowering under both would, i think be better. light = buds. more light = more buds!!!

[Skiing Arab]

Definatly use the HPS for flowering and MH will help but ideally 2 HPS's would be the best. but i don't see any problems m8 having a MH will help, just make sure they get even light from both (move them around) else ull find half have nice big buds and the others arnt as big. hope this helps m8
the skiing arab

[faithlessxxx]

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HPS has red light (2000 - 3000 Kelvin) and so resembles late summer light, good all round, but best for flowering. MH usually neutral/blue/cool white light 4000-6000 kelvin, which is lunchtime daylight, good all round but best for veg. and not perfect for flowering.

With what you've got, I'd go:


Veg: -1000w MH (1) -400w mh (1)

Flower: -1000w Hps (1) -1000w MH (1)

Clones: couple of flourescents

Maybe even add the 400w to the flowering, depending on circumstances and number of plants.
I'd definitely put most light in the flowering room.

Check this dude out, he has similiar equipment:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=87140

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[stinkyattic]

Anathema is right on.

In response to other bits...

First of all, what experience growing do you already have personally? Just curious where you're coming from; do you have good success rates cloning for example... makes a lot of difference in how you set things up.

For a perpetual harvest using the 3 lights you have, put 1xMH1000 in your veg room.

Having twice the HPS wattage is preferable, because flowering plants get big....but if you plan to use the second mh1000...

Put 1xMH1000 + 1xHPS1000 in the flower room.
The plants that just came out of veg can go under the MH and you move them across the room so they finish under the HPS.

If you want to harvest 5 plants per week on a perpetual cycle, with a standard 60 day flower time, you need to plant to have 35 sexed plants plus 10 unsexed plants in the flower room at all times.
The formula is 7n sexed plus 2n unsexed, n being the target harvest-per-week number, and assuming a 50%male cull.

That also means that you have to start at least 10 plants per week from seed or 5 as clones, again, assuming 50% males and 100% survival rate.

I think you should start pretty small and get a bunch of practice under your belt, and make sure that you have no security worries before going commercial. But that's just me and I'm stodgy like that.