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    #11
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    Potentially big harvest

    Thanks for the replies everyone!
    FYI, as little experience as I have doing this, the grower I'm working with has been growing for a long time outdoors and is just getting into the indoor scene. So although we're both fairly new to the indoor set-up, he is experienced with taking clones and feeding etc, so we should be able to make this work between us. So from all the replies, so far this is the idea I'm getting from you all, hopefully I'm not confused.
    - Clones under either 400w MH, or fluoro's in one room.
    -Vegging clones and mothers with 1000w MH in another room.
    -Then in the next room will be the 1000w MH and the 1000w HPS.
    -stinkyattic: you said to just move the plants across the room from the MH to the HPS. Does this mean I would start with say 15 plants in the room for we'll say 4 weeks under the MH, then when more females are ready to flower, move the first group over to the HPS and put the new ones under MH. This would be like a SOG within the SOG, correct? (lol) Or like you said, put 5 plants in a week and just move them a row down, with every week harvesting the 5 plants in the last row of the HPS lighting? If I'm putting 5 plants in the room per week and taking 5 out, this means I will roughly have 45 plants flowering under 2000w of light at any given , correct?
    -Another thing, I'm not sure I understand what you meant about the males and the little formula thing you gave me so if you could explain this again I would appreciate it a lot!
    Thanks everyone for reading this post

    -AllStar

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Potentially big harvest

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    The clones will die under 400W, unless its yards away.
    The male formula thing, if I may be so bold, is that if you're running from seeds, roughly half will be males.

    I'm so jealous of everyone who has the space for these set ups...

    .

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Potentially big harvest

    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar
    put 5 plants in a week and just move them a row down, with every week harvesting the 5 plants in the last row of the HPS lighting?
    Exactly right except that you put 10 plant in a week and cull approximately half of them at the end of that week because they will be male, or just sorta lame and runty, that's kind of what the little formula gets at...


    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar
    If I'm putting 5 plants in the room per week and taking 5 out, this means I will roughly have 45 plants flowering under 2000w of light at any given , correct?
    Yes, and of those, you will not know the sex of the 10 youngest at any given time.


    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar
    -Another thing, I'm not sure I understand what you meant about the males and the little formula thing you gave me
    It's kind of explained as the answer to your first question, but once you start getting clones in there you can ignore that aspect... and for a true SOG you are definitely going to have an easier life using clones!!!!

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Potentially big harvest

    Switch one of your MH bulbs out with a HPS conversion bulb. You'll defnitely want to be getting more bud rather than vegging plants.
    Do 2 flowering rooms, one vegetation room. If you want more square feet ouf of your lights I highly reccomend getting a light mover. Exhaust fans, nice healthy mothers and a good cloning/propagation setup will make your life alot easier.
    :rastasmoke:

    \"I guess I could be an astronaut if they filled space with blunt smoke\"
    Check out my plantitos.

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    #15
    Junior Member

    Potentially big harvest

    Thanks again everyone,

    Anathema mentioned earlier in the post that for commercial grows LST isn't favorable with SOG. I was always under the impression that LST pretty much always gave more bud in the end, please clarify this with me.

    -AllStar

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Potentially big harvest

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    LST doesn't mean "Slow Stress Training", it means "Low Stress Training", e.g. although it is stressful to the plant to be bent, it's lower stress than topping, super cropping, etc etc etc.

    Pro's usually say that SOG gives a larger yield all in all, like annually or over a given period of time - not because they yield more than ordinary, larger plants, but because thier turnover is quicker.

    LST allows you to get your lower side branches as large as the main cola/stem.
    I find it easy and fun, and you get thick, bushy plants.

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