Thanks kp. I did as you said and gave the ladies 1/2 stregnth this feeding. I didn't take any new pics, because there is nothing different about them execept the defs are slightly worse, but that I expected. The flower room is in another house, hard to get over there to take pics....I started flowering the last post I made, with Kitchen and Bath CFTs...and four 23wt soft white cfls. I have four more bulbs but haven't bought any more reflectors yet. I bought an ionizer instead, since they are stinking up the whole house, lol. Thank you again bsb, kp, gk! GK, yes they are flowering and hopefully I will still get something with them even with the crummy lighting (I realize I waited a little to long to flower ). B