Maybe I will try both the tape and the holes drilled in those waste baskets. I was thinking maybe I didn't have enough holes drilled into the bottom as it was..... Do you think that because you took woodier branches when you cloned that is why the stalk is too stiff? I was wondering about this while deciding if I wanted to clone or not. I was thinking perhaps...the wick method or whatever it is called. That'll need pearlite! Why did your profile say DEAD? S