thanks for the info, ive always harvested on the early side...impatient i guess lol
i always assumed they woud just just go dark and drop off or somthing, kinda like frost bite lol

know i know to look for droopey ones as a sighn they are past-best...cheers

ive changed the fert yet again today, ive gone back to the vita-link 10-9-19 for one feeding (2xdose)as there are a few blemishes on som leafs that look like some kind of deficiancy, these nute have a long list of micro-nutes so im hoping a good infusion they will do the trick,
next feeds will be back to the zero-N-25P-25K concoction that i invented before,

its re-assuring to know that i can fall back on a good all-rounder fert if i feel the need.

note to slef: it would be good to find a micro formula with no major nutes included