Why should it be our responsibility to help Mexican citizens?

[jamstigator]

They'd turn us down; machismo, pride. Heck, they fought trying to take part of our country from us already, they sure aren't going to give over theirs.

This fence idea is pretty stupid. I mean, I was envisioning a real wall, something concrete or stone 20 feet high mounted with barbed wire and armed machine gunners every few hundred yards. Like the DMZ separating North and South Korea or something. But that isn't what this is. This is gonna be a normal fence. Yeah, it'll take them an extra 2 minutes to climb over it, and they'll do it faster operating as teams carrying a ladder or two, but so what, they'll adjust and it'll be business as usual, and we'll have a very expensive but relatively useless minor delaying tactic. Good time to buy stock in the Mexican ladder industry!

I'm not saying the concept itself is wrong (I honestly don't know what to think about this), but the implementation is definitely very flawed.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

They'd turn us down; machismo, pride. Heck, they fought trying to take part of our country from us already, they sure aren't going to give over theirs.

Then we should not be feeding, clothing, or housing them. If they still insist on coming to the U.S., they can sleep in the gutters like the rest of the homeless. They're not going to stand up for themselves as long as we keep taking care of them.

How much pride do they sacrifice the instant they cross the border into the U.S.? As soon as they do that, they are admitting that Mexico sucks and they can have a better life by living somewhere else, a.k.a. the U.S.

[Dutch Pimp]

The drain on the system is retirees who have paid into social security and medicare their whole life and now expect something for their money. Immigrants are willing to pay payroll taxes to help cover the bill, but for some reason we prefer they work under the table.

...the way I understand it ..illegal aliens..working in the states..don't pay state, local, federal taxes...my..place where I work..shit cannned...all who don't have a social sercurity number. Adios amgigos.(?sp)....we were friends.

[budzy malone]

Thats not the deal they get. This is the deal. When they bring the pot over to America from Mexico, they get to stay for free as a fringe benefit for helping flood our market with pot.
I like Mexican food and I like Mexican people, I don't see what the big deal is. There are plenty of white assholes I would like to get rid of though....

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

I like Mexican food and I like Mexican people, I don't see what the big deal is.

That's because you aren't comprehending just how many there are, and the impact they have on our country.

It has nothing to do with who you like or don't like. It has everything to do with mathematics.

[Ozarks]

The drain on the system is retirees who have paid into social security and medicare their whole life and now expect something for their money. Immigrants are willing to pay payroll taxes to help cover the bill, but for some reason we prefer they work under the table.

The old folks paid into the system, the politicians spent all the money, The Illegals pay into the system (with phony SS cards and numbers) to make the payments to the old folks.

Who needs the illegals ?

[PigSnout]

Thats not the deal they get. This is the deal. When they bring the pot over to America from Mexico, they get to stay for free as a fringe benefit for helping flood our market with pot.
I like Mexican food and I like Mexican people, I don't see what the big deal is. There are plenty of white assholes I would like to get rid of though....

You're one racist asshole I'd like to see leave this country.

[Bong30]

Thats not the deal they get. This is the deal. When they bring the pot over to America from Mexico, they get to stay for free as a fringe benefit for helping flood our market with pot.
I like Mexican food and I like Mexican people, I don't see what the big deal is. There are plenty of white assholes I would like to get rid of though....

You are too dumb to even know what the fuck you are talking about.

How about a 2 teir justice system....
I have a Drivers Lic. and car insurance.......Illegals dont need it.

Here in colorado Bill Ritter the DA..... was letting illegals with 2 pounds of meth of with a TRESSPASS TICKET......

Hey Budzy yoiu get cought with 2 pounds of meth your gone....

Do you have health insurance? I pay 700 a month. For my family. If you are Illegal...shit just go down to the emergancy room and demand and Interpreter and get free health care.

If you are pregnant... just come here and see a doctor (the first doc you have ever seen) Have a baby here and now you get ALL the Social Programs. Food stamps, Wefare, health Care.....Blah Blah

So when you are done pulling your head from your ass, go get a Burrito.


Im a white asshole......and I vote.

[canucktoker]

"But remember they dont want to Asimalate.... to our views they want us to learn spanish, and such."


I didnt realize all mexicans think the exact same way. Did you take a poll or something? How do you know what all mexicans think? If i said all jews were greedy, or all black people steal, i am a racist. Why is ok to hate mexicans now or lump them into one group?


"They're not going to stand up for themselves as long as we keep taking care of them."


You take care of them??? They do the jobs you wont, at a rate its illegal to pay, your entire lifestyle is financed by thier hard work, yet somehow, from your crazy perspective they owe you.



"That's because you aren't comprehending just how many there are, and the impact they have on our country."


The impact they have is positive. Houses are cheaper because they build them. All those construction jobs in my country pay 30 bucks an hour. What do illegals who build things in the usa make? The dishwasher, the cook the guy who built the resteraunt: all illegal, all paid poorly. Is it a mystery why the exact same meal costs less in the usa than it would in canada or europe or aus or nz? Everything is cheaper in america, but it comes at a cost that will need to be paid later. You cant have it both ways, you either have to pay everyone a fair wage or dont cry when the mexicans show up at hosptial looking for free healthcare for their children. They cant afford 700 bucks a month, you pay them slave wages. All you mexican haters would be the 1st to complain when your cost of living skyrockets because you dont have a cheap pool of labour to keep costs so low.



"Do you have health insurance? I pay 700 a month. For my family. If you are Illegal...shit just go down to the emergancy room and demand and Interpreter and get free health care."


Shouldnt it just be free for everyone? I pay nothing in my country. So i actually dont care that the local emergency room is filled with non white peoples. I dont even care if they are "legal" because i dont believe in the concept of illegal people.

People still sneak across DMZ every day, landmines dont stop them, getting shot on sight wont stop them. What is your fence going to do?

[Hamlet]

Shouldnt it just be free for everyone? I pay nothing in my country.

Yes it should. But that's not exactly true, is it? Don't you pay something like half your income in taxes?