Has the UFC ruined martial arts movies for you?

[potsmokingnome]

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potsmokingnome Reviewed by potsmokingnome on 10-26-2006. Has the UFC ruined martial arts movies for you? It has for me. Not that I'm complaining or anything, just feeling sentimental, I guess. Once you've seen how a real life martial arts fight plays out, all those kung fu and karate movies just look comical. Every move they make is so elegantly complicated, perfectly timed, and flawlessly executed. Not at all like the UFC. In the UFC, 99% of the fights go to the ground and end on the ground. And even when they are on their feet, they don't seem to be using any special techniques that you Rating: 5

[dryst]

most those dudes in ufc look like street fighters, which they probally were at 1 time or another..anywayz, my point being is that martial arts is about discipline, not so much as kicking the shit outta the other person, these people most of them do freestyle martial arts, which means they can pretty much do w/e the hell they want to the other person, like psycho said most of it consist of grappling

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

kwal:

You totally misunderstood what I was saying, dude.

I'm not bashing jujitsu. As far as I'm concerned, jujitsu is the only martial art worth learning. No other style can defeat jujitsu without adding some jujitsu into your style.

But I'm comparing the UFC to martial arts movies here. You don't see grappling in the movies. In the movies you see fists and feet moving at a thousand miles an hour. You see blocks and dodges and counters that are equally fast. That's why I can't watch martial arts movies anymore, because they're too "over the top."

And by the way, many of the knockouts in the UFC are just wild punches that got lucky and landed. That's a fact.

[iwantFUEGO]

Martial arts movies use different styles of fighting that recognize certain rules (dont kick them while theyre down, etc..)

UFC is a mixed martial arts street fight... thats why they end up on the ground... cuz its allowed.

Martial ARTS is just that... art

[iwantFUEGO]

kwal:

And by the way, many of the knockouts in the UFC are just wild punches that got lucky and landed. That's a fact.

SO TRUE...

[Reefer Rogue]

High-Yah!

[PaRaNoIa]

It has for me. Not that I'm complaining or anything, just feeling sentimental, I guess.

Once you've seen how a real life martial arts fight plays out, all those kung fu and karate movies just look comical. Every move they make is so elegantly complicated, perfectly timed, and flawlessly executed. Not at all like the UFC.

In the UFC, 99% of the fights go to the ground and end on the ground. And even when they are on their feet, they don't seem to be using any special techniques that you won't see in any drunken street fight. They all have years of training, and most have black belts in at least one, sometimes more than one, martial arts style, but you don't see that on display when they fight. All you see is wild punches and leg kicks. It's never really pretty, and often very sloppy.

And if everyone is using the exact same moves as the next guy, does that mean their own specific style of martial arts is useless? Did they train all those years to earn their black belts by learning moves that will never work? I know there is more to being a black belt than just mounting your opponent and dropping elbows on his face, but that is the prefered style of attack in the UFC. Hell, I can do that. Am I a black belt now too?

It's kinda funny, really. Martial arts has this great mythical aura about it. Everyone seems to believe if you know karate (or whatever style) then you are some kind of bad ass. But when the fighting starts, there's nothing bad ass about it. Just two guys humping each other on the floor of the octagon.:dance:

I dunno if anyone has said this, because I didn't bother reading through the thread..


The U.F.C. doesn't just have martial arts.. The reason they always lie on the ground and cuddle is because most of them have WRESTLING training as well as other martial arts..

Karate isn't about lying on the ground, neither is Tae Kwondo.. Boxing and Kick boxing.. There are many many many many other, that DON'T go on, on the ground.. So, you're just a moron for letting the U.F.C. ruin martial arts movies for you.

[SouledOut]

I see what the dudes saying I think. While it hasn't ruined martial arts films for me, it does seem to show that the complex, dramatic and exciting styles shown in martial arts movies doesn't amount to fuck all when it gets real. UFC does seem to have an enourmous amount of focus on ground and pound and I would like to see some variation on the fights. You know like underground circuit? way back in the 30's and 40's the london underworld boasted a massive bareknuckle scene with a variety of arenas. The most notorious was the hourglass. The fighters would get in a clear sided cube then once the fight starts they start to pour sand in a hole in the roof. It was meant to be a massive equaliser because the conditions were so bad, ie you couldn't see shit, your breathing's all fucked up etc. I realise something like that wont come back but I'd love to see some ufc matches with rules like stand up fight only, or chain their wrists together, shit like that. UFC is cool but some nights it doesn't get my heart racing like it did when Randy and Chuck fought. maybe I'm talking shit, I'm kind of stoned. no worries. lol


happy smoking

[MegaOctane12]

I try to watch UFC but they talk for about 20minutes, adverts, talk for another ten minutes, fight starts, over the top intros, more talking, two guys I never heard of pummel each other for about ten seconds, one gets caught in a head lock and submitted. My last 35-40 minutes of agony ended in a ten second fight. Fuck that.

[ninfan77]

No, no it hasnt.

Ive studied American Sombo for over 5 years was a senior instructor at my academy, and AikiJuJitsu for 2. I love both ufc,pride etc, and MA movies. The reason it all looks like a drunken mess to you is maybe because you dont understand whats really going on in the ring. Kwali made a pretty decent post so no need to reiterate.

JuJitsu has many styles, and yes gracies made a huge impact on nhb events but to make a sweeping comment as JJ is an absolute necessity or the "best" to know in the ring i think is false. One could argue a greco roman, sombo, and muay thai trained fighter would be just if not more lethal than a JJ MMA.

And yea, lucky plays a part of it.. one slip of the foot, or a lucky punch changes alot.