Has the UFC ruined martial arts movies for you?

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

It has for me. Not that I'm complaining or anything, just feeling sentimental, I guess.

Once you've seen how a real life martial arts fight plays out, all those kung fu and karate movies just look comical. Every move they make is so elegantly complicated, perfectly timed, and flawlessly executed. Not at all like the UFC.

In the UFC, 99% of the fights go to the ground and end on the ground. And even when they are on their feet, they don't seem to be using any special techniques that you won't see in any drunken street fight. They all have years of training, and most have black belts in at least one, sometimes more than one, martial arts style, but you don't see that on display when they fight. All you see is wild punches and leg kicks. It's never really pretty, and often very sloppy.

And if everyone is using the exact same moves as the next guy, does that mean their own specific style of martial arts is useless? Did they train all those years to earn their black belts by learning moves that will never work? I know there is more to being a black belt than just mounting your opponent and dropping elbows on his face, but that is the prefered style of attack in the UFC. Hell, I can do that. Am I a black belt now too?

It's kinda funny, really. Martial arts has this great mythical aura about it. Everyone seems to believe if you know karate (or whatever style) then you are some kind of bad ass. But when the fighting starts, there's nothing bad ass about it. Just two guys humping each other on the floor of the octagon.:dance:

CityBoyGoneCountry Reviewed by CityBoyGoneCountry on 10-25-2006. Has the UFC ruined martial arts movies for you? It has for me. Not that I'm complaining or anything, just feeling sentimental, I guess. Once you've seen how a real life martial arts fight plays out, all those kung fu and karate movies just look comical. Every move they make is so elegantly complicated, perfectly timed, and flawlessly executed. Not at all like the UFC. In the UFC, 99% of the fights go to the ground and end on the ground. And even when they are on their feet, they don't seem to be using any special techniques that you Rating: 5

[Nochowderforyou]

I've never been into much martial arts movies. I prefer seeing the real thing I guess.

I've seen plenty of good punch for punch fights on UFC. Some of which didn't even make it past the first punch. I've seen plenty of knee to faces that end in total K.O, those are my favorite.

I think martial arts also involves spirituality, being in top shape, and being prepared for any threat that comes your way. It's not just about kicking ass, but it's also about self defense and using your skills only when needed.

[orangeman]

When you ask me I just believe that theres a difference in practicing martial arts and actually using it when the time comes. Maybe they aren't thinking about the moves they learned, just thinking about winning and not trying to get knocked the fuck out lol.

[Nochowderforyou]

Ha ha! Yeah man.

The octagon is a scary place and I have seen some pretty big guys unleash their fists of fury. Mike Sylvia is one of favs. right now. Fuckin maniac!

My all time fav. is Tank Abbott back in his prime. I saw a UFC special with him back in 2002 I believe, and the guy was hunched over from exhaustion after only 4min. The other guy was bouncing around still, full of pep. Needless to say Tank got knocked the fuck out with a shot to the jaw.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

When you ask me I just believe that theres a difference in practicing martial arts and actually using it when the time comes. Maybe they aren't thinking about the moves they learned, just thinking about winning and not trying to get knocked the fuck out lol.

But see, I'm always hearing about how martial arts experts train to the point where they don't have to think about it, they just do it. Obviously, from watching the UFC, that's just bullshit.

Why spend all those hours practicing some move that you will never use because it's worthless? I think that time would be better spent practicing moves that you know you're going to need.

[potsmokingnome]

anyone seen the last fight Tito and shamrock had? that fight was truly sad, I was looking forward to a good fight not an all out slaughter. for christ sake the fight didn't even go past the 1st round. Kind of funny Tito kicked Shamrocks ass all 3 times though lol!

[Psycho4Bud]

When the UFC started out it was a compitition of all different styles. What it progressed to is basically a grappling match because ROYCE GRACIE was so dominant with his style.

Just goes to show ya.....if someone goes into "crane style", tackle em' down before they can kick the crap out of ya! LOL....ya might get in one good punch at least.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Kwali]

In the UFC, 99% of the fights go to the ground and end on the ground. And even when they are on their feet, they don't seem to be using any special techniques that you won't see in any drunken street fight. They all have years of training, and most have black belts in at least one, sometimes more than one, martial arts style, but you don't see that on display when they fight. All you see is wild punches and leg kicks. It's never really pretty, and often very sloppy.

I stopped reading here, saying they don't display their skills? When they goto the ground they are displaying wrestling, jujitsu, submissions, and ground and pound all very well rounded techniques. Standing up they look like drunk fighters? That may just be the dumbest post of this thread. To say they swing around like drunk fighters shows you don't know your Mixed Martial Arts even more. While standing they display kickboxing, boxing, grappling, wrestling defense, and Muay Thai once again all very well rounded techniques. Why do you see no martial arts in the octagon you ask? Plain and simple, all these styles mixed together are more dominate then the styles of karate. Lets face it, karate these days is nothing more then a training style to get you ready for the styles listed above. Theres just to many counters to karate period. You should really stop watching UFC on spike tv and watch some UFC PPVs, better yet watch PRIDE FC, or King of the Cage or just stick to your karate movies because karate will not and won't last in fighting competitions besides karate competitons. And if you think a black belt guy in karate can beat some UFC fighters ass you should really quit sniffing glue. Karate can't compare to a well rounded fighter. They have way more skills then a karate fighter contains. Sure a karate kid may be winning the stand up game, but then he gets takin down to the ground, whats he gonna do here? Pretty much nothing but allow himself to get his face smashed or a arm/ankle broke. Anyone who knows anything about Mixed Martial Arts will laugh in your face at this post. You say everyone uses the same moves and does the same styles, you know why? Because back in UFC 1 there was a fighter by the name of Royce Graice and he was a master in jujitsu, and what he did was beat 3 fighters in one night, i believe 2 or 3 PPVs in a row. And he fought your "bar fighter" he fought your "wrestler" he fought your "Karate Kid" and he owned them all in one round. Why? Because standing up in a fight means nothing if you have no take down defense. Just like he displayed, and from that he submitted them at will. So as MMA progressed people relised they needed jujitsu if they wanted to last in a fight that went to the ground. The same reason people brought in kickboxing to counter boxing. Every style has a counter, so they learn as many styles that WORK IN A FIGHT and there for are that much more well rounded against a fighter who only contains one style. Ehhh I could keep this going forever but Im not going to, basicly karate is useless in a real fight with a fighter who knows how to fight and contains multi styles of fighting. Quit watching SPIKE TV, and order/buy some PPV's.

[Kwali]

anyone seen the last fight Tito and shamrock had? that fight was truly sad, I was looking forward to a good fight not an all out slaughter. for christ sake the fight didn't even go past the 1st round. Kind of funny Tito kicked Shamrocks ass all 3 times though lol!

Ken is 42 and has been fighting since the first PPV in 1993. Hes old, he should of retired 3 years ago. The fight was basicly a rubber match to warm Tito up for Liddel so he can get knocked out again.

[Kwali]

Oh why do you think there hasn't been a successful karate practicioners in ANY combat sport? Lets see here

Lets say match 1 is pure striking stand up
Karate Kid would get beat by a boxer or kick boxer by pure out striking
Karate Kid would get kneed to death by a muay thai fighter while grappled
Karate Kid would get elbowd to death in a grapple in the coner
Lets say match 2 is pure ground game
Karate Kid would get ground and pounded till he was knocked out
Karate Kid would get submitted not only on the ground, but standing
Karate Kid would get tossed around by a wrestler till he got the postion he liked
Lets say match 3 is MMA rules
Karate Kid may be getting the better stand up of someone, but then he gets takin down, what does he do? I know he doesn't know cause he hasn't learned ground defense
Karate Kid fights A,B or even C ranked striker and Im putting my money on the MMA strike over him anyday. Why? Karate Kid would be using kicks and punches, while the MMA striker would be using kicks,punchs,elbows,knees,grappling,foot stomps,take downs,submission attempts ground and standing

Lets face is karate has yet to make a impact in ANY combat sport, and I doubt it will.