thanks Burnt...don't mean to throw your head into a tizzy about QF 4.0

I read a post in another thread that said a lab tech collecting the sample took one look at it and in like fifteen seconds tagged it as a phony. That didn't seem very reliable to me so I thought I'd ask. Apart from that and a few stories about expired batches that fail...I never heard anything but good news about QF....you're right on about that one. Still...I feel strangely reassured in handing them a human sample instead...even if it's from the opposite sex.

:thumbsup: but thanks for the info on gender testing...I didn't think they could test for gender without consent...I didn't think they could go that far...but they are testing so, who knows...