Quote Originally Posted by wonderbear
i wasn't trying to say what you were trying to preach one way or the other, i was stating my own standpoint
I wasnt attacking you bro i agree with what your saying.


Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
First of all, I'd like to say once and for all that the Watchbox analogy is bogus. You even earlier described it as "shaking a trillion pieces in the box" to compare it to life. There's no part in evolutionary theory that suggests we took the billions of parts of our genetic code and shook them all in a "box" till it just magically fell together.

Now I believe the reason Polymerize was questioning your "scientific method" is because you're making mass leaps in logic, which essentially are:

Life is amazingly complex
we can't explain how it could be that complex
therefor god did it

All you have is a mystery, the knowledge that some process (even the work of god) created the complexity that exists in life today. Then, rather than exploring some possible ideas about these processes, or excepting that you don't have an explanation, you just give the credit to god by default. "can't explain it? god did it!". The idea of an intelligence creating complexity is only a hypothesis, a proposed explanation for the mystery. Just because you lack other explanations, just because humanity can't yet explain everything that happens in the universe and how every process works and exists, doesn't mean your "intelligent designer" hypothesis is suddenly proven right just because we don't know of a better one yet.
Intelligent design doesn't work. All it does is say "I don't know how to explain it", then takes the old theistic texts that claim a god did it, and say "well that proves it". But it proves nothing, just because the explanation fits doesn't mean it's right. I could explain life as existing because some unknown trans-dimensional fluctuation works through processes that affect molecules in a way so as to create the beginnings of life, which could then grow in complexity through evolutionary processes, meanwhile being assisted by these random yet beneficial fluctuations. But I can't say that's proven right, I can only propose it as a hypothesis.

People are obviously mislead, and in this respect ignorant, when they think a non-god universe means nothing but trillions and trillions of accidents all mistakenly happened so as to coincidentally lead to the same end product.
You make a good point... only I'm not trying to explain how life came together.
No one knows this.

All we can do is observe and study our surrounding and learn as much about it as we can... which is what humans have been doing for thousands of years.

I reiterate... im not preaching god... just a designer of life on earth..... and he/she/it is an incredible chemist.

Thats all