Quote Originally Posted by andruejaysin
I assume that's aimed at me, so I'll try to use small words for you, light from distant stars has nothing to do with the big bang, except to show that the universe must be old enough to allow it to travel to us. On the other hand the universe shows very uniform background x-ray radiation, no matter where you point a radio telescope. Where do you suggest this radiation comes from, if not from the big bang? As for the second question, it appears likely there was life on mars, back when it had an atmosphere. Have you not at some point in your biology education learned life, at least as we understand it, requires liquid water? And that complex, multicellular life requires oxygen? Your argument is often called the "strong anthropomorphic principal" (sorry, big words, but unavoidable). That is to say that because we see a universe in which we can exist, it must therefore have been created for our benefit. The counter argument is simply that we should not be surpized to see around us conditions which allow our existence, to the contrary, it would be very odd indeed should we see otherwise.
You have a decent argument... only once again, skipped way past the point. You are claiming that we shouldnt be surprised that we live on earth because earth contains water and air and all the things necessary to provide life.
thats fine and dandy.
What everyone here is ranting about is the fact that the biochemical aspects of life... did it or did it not spontaneous evolve without help from a designer? People are claiming that the earth has been around for billions of years... that is a LONG time they claimed, long enough for carbon based beings to evolve into water dependant creatures....

what I am saying, however, is that Mars has been around for billions of years also. Why has (just an example) a nitrogen-based organism that is dependant on sulfur evolved there?

Trying reading more
And please spare me the simple words... thanks :thumbsup:


Quote Originally Posted by Polymirize
"You know what I hate? When people try to join conversations, as opposed to just sitting there passively and listening. I mean, whenever I go to church do you see me challenging the pastor on issues? Hell no.

We can debate, sure. But you're not allowed to point out the flaws in my argument, that's just unfair. And if you do so, I'll ignore your points by claiming their not even relevant."

I don't think anyone else has contributed to making you look like a dumbass man. Take a little personal responsibility.
Dude.... you just keep chiming in with bs...
everything that you have argued has been "quoted" by me in all my posts and refuted.
You havent done that once. You have yet to address one single educated thing that ive said.
Give me a break.