To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...

[iwantFUEGO]

It's pretty obvious you're not agnostic =/

I can think outside the box plenty.

You know what else is endless? The debate on whether god exists, it can't be proven, so why dwell. You obviously posted your original post for a reason, what that may be, only you know. I think you posted it to at least try and convince someone, or else what's the point? You're not convincing me though. Learn all the microbiology you want, preach it to whomever you choose, but if people don't agree with you, then you should just accept it.

Now, back to cannabis smoking

your absolutely right about convincing others... which is not my intention...

i was sitting in my genetics class today and i realized...

God (or whatever creator you believe in) must have been one hell of a chemist.

Is anyone else as fascinated as I am by how life works?

I was merely sharing my fascinations...

Unfortunately... some people decided to chime in with their little factoids trying to prove ME wrong, and this led to everyting but a discussion on what was originally proposed.

It just upsets me when all im trying to do is share a fascination of mine and then people refute me with statements that are TOTALLY irrelevant to what were talking about here.
I mean, its obvious that im not just babbling out a bunch of bullshit... so if you want to debate it (which i love doing ), atleast come up with something that has some relevance to the topic... and dont put words in my mouth in an attempt to make me look like a dumbass...

Not saying you did that, rogue...
Peace

[Reefer Rogue]

Good shit man, life is fascinating.

[TheSmokingMonkey]

I agree, I think life is too complex to be a coincidence.

After all... we all know that life tends towards chaos (principle of entropy) -

But we also know that there are all kinds of complex forms of life everywhere disobeying the law of entropy every second to stay alive (including humans)

So how does that fit together? I say God made us. Who knows which type of god that is, or if any of those religious texts are for real, but I think there are too many beautiful and complicated things in the world to have been just some random freak accident under nobody's control.

[dark0ne]

some say that life arrived here in comets shorty after the earth cooled. tiny microscopic single celled organisims piggybacked in the ice of a comet Land into the ocean.

another theroy is that some of the basic needs for life were here. At the time most of the solar system was still chaotic, and a piece of mars that had broke off in another event slammed into the earth witch caused a catalismic(sp) explosion. Releasing new compounds into the air and water.

[Reefer Rogue]

Hume: "Thus, although God may have made man in his own image, the concept of God is made in man's own image."

[Inferius]

*come closerrrr*...

*cough-weeze*

*closeerrrr*

the secret to life...is....

*cough weeze*

*death rattle, slump*

WHAT IS IT?!
GOD DAMN IT!

[andruejaysin]

Oh and if there was a bing bang.... explain to me... mr genius.... how light is traveling towards us? That was a ridiculous statement that wasnt thought out, because, if everything flew out of one point...then light would only be traveling out. .

What makes us so special?? why arent there organisms that have adapted to survive on mars or even saturn?? they've been around for "billions of years" also... they've had plenty of time also.

I assume that's aimed at me, so I'll try to use small words for you, light from distant stars has nothing to do with the big bang, except to show that the universe must be old enough to allow it to travel to us. On the other hand the universe shows very uniform background x-ray radiation, no matter where you point a radio telescope. Where do you suggest this radiation comes from, if not from the big bang? As for the second question, it appears likely there was life on mars, back when it had an atmosphere. Have you not at some point in your biology education learned life, at least as we understand it, requires liquid water? And that complex, multicellular life requires oxygen? Your argument is often called the "strong anthropomorphic principal" (sorry, big words, but unavoidable). That is to say that because we see a universe in which we can exist, it must therefore have been created for our benefit. The counter argument is simply that we should not be surpized to see around us conditions which allow our existence, to the contrary, it would be very odd indeed should we see otherwise.

[psychocat]

Just cause I like it I have to reference Monty Python.


Galaxy Song Lyrics
Artist: Monty Python
Album: The Meaning Of Life

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

The last 2 lines require an honest response and from what I've seen I couldn't agree more.

[Polymirize]

Unfortunately... some people decided to chime in with their little factoids trying to prove ME wrong...


I mean, its obvious that im not just babbling out a bunch of bullshit... so if you want to debate it (which i love doing ), atleast come up with something that has some relevance to the topic...


and dont put words in my mouth in an attempt to make me look like a dumbass...

"You know what I hate? When people try to join conversations, as opposed to just sitting there passively and listening. I mean, whenever I go to church do you see me challenging the pastor on issues? Hell no.

We can debate, sure. But you're not allowed to point out the flaws in my argument, that's just unfair. And if you do so, I'll ignore your points by claiming their not even relevant."

I don't think anyone else has contributed to making you look like a dumbass man. Take a little personal responsibility.

[andruejaysin]

Clearly he wasn't looking for debate, but for a bunch of people to say "Yeah, man, I'll bet you're right."