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10-24-2006, 11:00 PM #1OPSenior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
i was sitting in my genetics class today and i realized...
God (or whatever creator you believe in) must have been one hell of a chemist.
Is anyone else as fascinated as I am by how life works?
Most people dont realize that the only reason they exist is because of chemical reactions.... Chemical reactions that are so infinite and specific that anyone who says that this all happened by a "big bang" is a total ignoramus.
I dont mean to offend anyone...but,
Life (as it exists) was designed so intricately, you cant say that some genius didnt create it... whether you choose to call him God or not.
Somethin' for you all to think about.
PeaceiwantFUEGO Reviewed by iwantFUEGO on . To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there... i was sitting in my genetics class today and i realized... God (or whatever creator you believe in) must have been one hell of a chemist. Is anyone else as fascinated as I am by how life works? Most people dont realize that the only reason they exist is because of chemical reactions.... Chemical reactions that are so infinite and specific that anyone who says that this all happened by a "big bang" is a total ignoramus. I dont mean to offend anyone...but, Rating: 5
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10-24-2006, 11:10 PM #2Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
so your saying a genious created the universe? yea thats more plausible.
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10-24-2006, 11:24 PM #3OPSenior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
???
thats not what im saying...
and since i easily pick up sarcasm i will say that was a very weak attempt at a refuting arguement.
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10-24-2006, 11:32 PM #4OPSenior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
ok since most people arent science majors i will give you a watered down example of what im talking about.
The only reason these objects we call our bodies know how to grow is because of a molecule called Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) that exists in many copies in every cell that makes up our bodies.
lets break it down.
Deoxyribose, which is a sugar derived from ribose (which is basically a carbon-oxygen ring)
Purine/Pyrimidine base, which is another ring with electronegative atoms to induce hydrogen bonding so the double strand can exist stabley (coincidence?)
Phosphodiester backbone, which is very stable and very negative, allowing it to regulated by postive amino acids (argenine & lysine) by condensing and relaxing the DNA. This is BASICALLY how gene expression is regulated... if anyone is more interested i will explain further.... (ever wonder why we all start from one cell, but as we grow our eye cells and our toe nail cells are completely different?)
This is just one example, but a good one to show those who dont know that life is made of chemistry...
Now who would like to tell me that all this just happened because of a huge explosion?
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10-24-2006, 11:42 PM #5Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
All life can be broken down into mathematical formulas however it is simply a case of HUMAN thinking that allows us the arrogance to believe we know anything for sure.
God or whatever you choose to call it is a creation of the human mind to try to give answers to an unanswerable question."Someone or something must've made this" is only a thought a human would have and is probably the stupidest thought ever since we can't even concieve of the complexity of the thing that does our thinking for us ... the BRAIN.
The BIG BANG theory is scientist attempts to quantify something they barely understand.
Knowledge is like water , it is useless to try to fill a gallon jug with ten gallons of water.
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10-24-2006, 11:46 PM #6OPSenior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
Originally Posted by psychocat
we have physics and chemistry down to a science my friend... its not just a "mathematical explanation".
this is a thread about the complexity of biological life... please dont turn it into a "God bashing" one.
Wheres birdgirl? she'll shed some light on this i'm sure.
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10-24-2006, 11:53 PM #7Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
A math teacher from my youth once sidelined his discussion on theroy vs. law to ponder the thought of taking all the parts of a fine swiss watch and placing them into a large shoebox and then shake.....Now how long before all those parts fall into place and you have a working watch???????
I think this is what your getting at...is it possible for the watch (life) to assemble itself through random movements...perhaps, but more likely to have been put together.....Well at least I would not shake a box for billions of years just to see what time it is........
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10-25-2006, 12:01 AM #8Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
i believe we are as close to a god as there can be
and so is a squirrel
cause were, literally, different parts of one concious
and all that we see is our concious
all that we FEEL is our concious
and the concious isnt in what we can see or feel, in fact, it isnt in anything at all
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10-25-2006, 12:07 AM #9Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
I totally agree.
Everything just comes together so fucking perfectly. The food chain, all the body systems.
And to imagine, when you break it down, we're all made up of EXTREMELY small particles we call Atoms, which is even smaller when you break it into the Protrons, Neutrons, and Electrons.
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10-25-2006, 12:07 AM #10Senior Member
To the science majors/scientists/science geeks out there...
Since I am a chemist you really are taking a lot for granted.
You miss the point .
The simple limitations of our own abilities make it impossible to accept that we cannot answer some very basic questions.
OK scientist tell me (NO THEORIES ONLY FACTS WILL BE ACCEPTED)
What wiped out the dinosaurs?
What is real ?
How many different species are there on this planet ? Don't forget new ones are discovered all the time .
Why do people feel they need to believe that some force created us and everything ?
Why couldn't we all be figments of our own imagination ?
Why couldn't we simply have popped into existence?
Maybe you would know if you were insane and imagining everything and maybe you would be so deluded that you believed what was in your mind but in reality it could all be a dream.
Get where I'm coming from yet ??
Science can't, nor do I believe it ever will be able to answer all questions.
Our human limits make us prone to mistakes and on numerous occasions science has had to admit to getting it wrong.
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