U.k Riots against Muslims..what do u think

[Maggz]

www.faithfreedom.org

[Tom Swierzbinski]

www.faithfreedom.org

Nice propaganda Why dont you learn abot history a little, then come back with a valid argument instead of a pointless link. Stupid cow.

If I remember correctly, Mossadegh (a previous Iranian president) was set up and kicked out of office... because he didnt want to monopolise the oil in his country. He wanted to offer it to anyone at a fair price, kicking BP etc out of the oilfields. America got majorly pissed off at this, and subsequently launced propaganda against him, claiming that he was behind attacks in the country. My mind is a little fuzzy at the moment, so some details may not be correct, but thats the general gist of it.
America then 'help' elect a new president... who grants them free access to the oilfields, but is a total extremist. Seems like Bush and Blairs only interest is in oil, no matter what the consequences

[TheSmokingMonkey]

The fear is overplayed and the odds of anything happening aren't any higher now than they have always been, it's only that we know about it now. It's still safer to take an airplane or a train than it is to drive your own car to work, so just get over it.

No offense, but a lot of people are scared over a whole lot of nothing.

It's mainly a propaganda assault designed to get us to underwrite the lining of the pockets of Halliburton and related ilk.

I'll support the troops but that's different than supporting the government and the corporate media.

Yes, you might be killed by terrorists. It's more likely that you will be killed by a heart attack or lighning strike or car crash with a drunk driver.

[TheSmokingMonkey]

www.venganza.org

I think the spaghetti monster created the universe.

[MegaOctane12]

Hi,
I don't really know much about this because I'm not the type of person to want to learn about this from the news and such. I show no interest in it because there's so much shit going on throughout the world revolving around the same kind of scenario. But I'm going to post my thoughts.
From what I've read on here, and from what I understand, overall I think it results to the government and their sly ways of conning money and people, I think they're rediculous.
Some of you English people will understand what this is about; people from other countries won't because I don't think you 'benefit' from this; benefit, yeah right.
My point is EMA; Education Maintenance Allowance. I'm just 17 years old and I do not recieve EMA. This is because their income boundary for EMA is £30,000 a year. My step dad is on £40,000 alone. My mum is on £15,000.
My first point is that it's my step dad on the high payroll, he is not my blood-relative. He is not going to give me any money, why should he? We live in a quarter mill house, I have 2 brothers, a baby brother and one at primary school. My mum's money is already spoken for right there, among debts and such. I recieve no income. But they don't seem to understand that.
How is EMA paid for? Taxes.
This is what bothers me the most, it's all abig con. My parents pay for peoples EMA through their taxes, but I don't recieve it because MY PARENTS, i mean.. My step dad is on a high payroll? Great.
Some of you will reply with telling me to get a part-time job. I have done, but it's difficult to goto college full time, then work part time, among sociailising, and such.
My point of the story is, the government are shit.

So many good posts in this thread its hard to pick one, so I'll just go for this.


Labour is a socialite party, its gradually been built up over the years from years of taking shit from the Conservative wing. Conservatives don't give a fuck about the working class, and this is where it gets interesting. Margret Thatcher wanted privatization, which effectively means that you pay for what you use in terms of services, and if you can't pay, you can't get. Now this is all good if you can work and earn your way through life, but there will always be a populace that regardless of the opportunitys that life throws at them, their own misfortunes, or their own bone idleness, they will always be at the bottom rung of the ladder, what happens to these people is they die off because of privatization.

Labour is a party which has effectively bonded and formed from the working man (Labour) over the years, they speak from predominately the left wing. Some of there core fundamentals are that we should all be on the same level, much like communism (also a left wing trait) and that people who succeed and achieve and fly high above the average, should have to pay for that success, through restrictions like higher taxes, which will be used, in turn, to support the people with less. Labour really cares little, or has forgotten about, the middle class, and this is where the majority of the native British people fall, they have been completely forgotten about under a Labour government.

Under Labour, if you have something but your struggling, you recieve nothing, if you have nothing, you recieve big phat benefits, and as for the Upper Class, they make their own way.

.......... We now have a left wing party with right wing characteristics. A party that started out promising work, good living to the working class has now turned into some really really fucked up capatilistic regimentation.

Americans are infact the total opposite, they are predominately right wing, they fuck the poor in the ass, and the rich are idolised, relished, treated as a protected species.


Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. Religion is a tool. Terrorism would happen regardless of whether religion is in the equation, as to the extent... its hard to tell. Relgion is a catalyst, people can use its universally 'good' message to do very 'bad thing's, so you really have to ask yourself whether its religion that kills people or people that kill people.

[Ivlatt]

So many good posts in this thread its hard to pick one, so I'll just go for this.


Labour is a socialite party, its gradually been built up over the years from years of taking shit from the Conservative wing. Conservatives don't give a fuck about the working class, and this is where it gets interesting. Margret Thatcher wanted privatization, which effectively means that you pay for what you use in terms of services, and if you can't pay, you can't get. Now this is all good if you can work and earn your way through life, but there will always be a populace that regardless of the opportunitys that life throws at them, their own misfortunes, or their own bone idleness, they will always be at the bottom rung of the ladder, what happens to these people is they die off because of privatization.

Labour is a party which has effectively bonded and formed from the working man (Labour) over the years, they speak from predominately the left wing. Some of there core fundamentals are that we should all be on the same level, much like communism (also a left wing trait) and that people who succeed and achieve and fly high above the average, should have to pay for that success, through restrictions like higher taxes, which will be used, in turn, to support the people with less. Labour really cares little, or has forgotten about, the middle class, and this is where the majority of the native British people fall, they have been completely forgotten about under a Labour government.

Under Labour, if you have something but your struggling, you recieve nothing, if you have nothing, you recieve big phat benefits, and as for the Upper Class, they make their own way.

.......... We now have a left wing party with right wing characteristics. A party that started out promising work, good living to the working class has now turned into some really really fucked up capatilistic regimentation.

Americans are infact the total opposite, they are predominately right wing, they fuck the poor in the ass, and the rich are idolised, relished, treated as a protected species.


Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. Religion is a tool. Terrorism would happen regardless of whether religion is in the equation, as to the extent... its hard to tell. Relgion is a catalyst, people can use its universally 'good' message to do very 'bad thing's, so you really have to ask yourself whether its religion that kills people or people that kill people.

Green taxes, What next?

[chisme]

Chisme as much as I understand where you're coming from and respect your feelings about this situation we also have to look closer to home.
How many brit white folks do you know who collect the bins?
How many Brit white folk do you know are benefit scroungers? there are enough believe me.
How many Brit white folks do you know who are just plain fuckin' lazy ?
We are turning into a nation of scrounging yobs with no self respect.

I have worked for over 30 years and I recently injured my back , I found out just how the goverment values people like myself by the lack of proper treatment and the insulting amount of benefits I recieve for 3 decades of working and paying my taxes.

The goverment and the people need to get their act together IMO.

yeah true mate but at the end of the day id rather my money go to scroungers born here not people who aim to take advantage of our country from afar, and even so at the end of the day......


white scrounder = benefits of £30 every 2 weeks
born in outher country scrounder = benefits of up to £3500 every 2 weeks


justify that to me ,






edit: also thanks for actualy listening and reading what i had to say instead of just thinking i was a rambling racist

[MegaOctane12]

Green taxes, What next?

Don't follow you..., green tax is just another stealth tax, although it helps the environment, how effective it is, is still questionable

[psychocat]

I believe we need to stop or at least slow down immigration to the UK, we also need to get rid of the criminals from abroad the minute they finish their sentence.

The welfare and NHS systems (including housing) also need to be reformed so that abuses by foreigners or even our own countrymen are reduced or even elliminated.

[chisme]

I believe we need to stop or at least slow down immigration to the UK, we also need to get rid of the criminals from abroad the minute they finish their sentence.

The welfare and NHS systems (including housing) also need to be reformed so that abuses by foreigners or even our own countrymen are reduced or even elliminated.

thaaank you:thumbsup: