Barack Obama In "08"?

[SkatePopwar]

hes my last hope for humanity then :P

unless i become president!!

[Fengzi]

Yeah, well, maybe a young president will be better than an older one.

To be honest, I believe that there should be an age limit for the presidency, and that age should be 40. Here's my reasoning...

Most of the people in the U.S. are under the age of 40. That's half a generation with its own philosophies and insights into how things should be run. The people over 40 make up a lower percentage of the population (since...you know...health issues), and thus aren't going to have opinions that'll really reflect THE PEOPLE. Sure, you sacrifice experience for the sake of the people, but isn't that why we have a check on the presidential power?

Of course...not when one party controls everything...

My two cents.

Jake

Intersting idea Jake, but the job of President really does require experience and wisdom. Of course, neither of these qualities are possessed by our current "leader", but that's a different issue One thing you come to realize as you grow older is that you really didn't know shit back when you thought you knew it all. Experience and, more importantly wisdom, are only gained through the passage of time, and it takes some trial and error. Personally, I'd prefer the man(or woman) with their finger on the button to be pretty much out of the trial and error faze of life.

The best way for young people to be represented is by getting out and voting. Ever wonder why the politicians pay so much attention to the opinions of senior citizens? Because, as a group, the percentage of people 65 and older that vote is far higher than any other age group. I'm not sure of the exact figure but it's something like 80%+ of people over 65 vote compared to around 50% of those in the 18-35 age group. Switch those numbers around and the you'll start to see politicians that cater to the opinions of "THE PEOPLE"

[Ozarks]

Yeah, well, maybe a young president will be better than an older one.

To be honest, I believe that there should be an age limit for the presidency, and that age should be 40. Here's my reasoning...

Most of the people in the U.S. are under the age of 40. That's half a generation with its own philosophies and insights into how things should be run. The people over 40 make up a lower percentage of the population (since...you know...health issues), and thus aren't going to have opinions that'll really reflect THE PEOPLE. Sure, you sacrifice experience for the sake of the people, but isn't that why we have a check on the presidential power?

Of course...not when one party controls everything...

My two cents.

Jake

When the founding fathers though about that, they came up with almost the (35 or older) exact opposite conclusion, I guess they took wisdom over youth.

The older you get the more sense that will make to you.

[KiEfBoyjBm]

I will agree that he is articulate and seems to have his heart in the right place, that would explain why he is politically moderate compared to most democrats. But there is one thing that he supports that would keep me from voting for him for any political office, let alone president.

That is a women's right to choose, I believe that no person with any morals or ethics whatsoever could condone abortion. And I feel that anyone who could support abortion must have motives beyond the issue. In the case of a politician those motives are political gain. And the fact that he has no problem with abortion speaks very clearly about his character: He will do what is necessary to get elected.
A lot of you may be pro-abortion for various reasons but at the core of this issue is humanity. It was inhumane to force black people into bondage. It was inhumane to subject them to Jim Crow laws. "Separate but equal" is just as ridiculous as "A women's right to choose." When our children look back at Roe vs. Wade they will ultimately see us in the same light as we see our ancestors, just a little bit barbaric.

[KiEfBoyjBm]

...I don't see any provision in the Constitution that allows for the Federal Government to say whether or not it's legal for a woman to have an abortion or not...

Women who are having triplets or twins can choose to abort 1 or all but one child, does that sound right. Did the founding fathers include anything about slavery? Oh yeah, black people count as 3/5th of a person, do you think we should follow what the founding fathers said to the tee? I don't think so either.

But one other aspect is that if you are a male and produced a child with a women, she can choose to abort that baby even if you object to it. But if she has the baby then you are completely liable for half of that child until he is 18. Does that sound right?

...Also, Kiefboy, the fact that he's pro-abortion shows that he will NOT do what is necessary to get elected. Last time I checked, the majority of people are against abortion, not for it.

The reason Barack gets elected is he accepts money from radical left wing pac's which allow him to be popular in a very Democratic state; those are his interests and they are highly specified. Those special interests are his constituency and not the people of Illinois or the people of the United States.

The only provision I think we need to add is a term limit for public service in Washington. 10 years for president, 8 years as vice-president, 12 years of senate, 6 years for house of representatives. And you could move up or down to do another job after you have exhausted your term limit. I believe that would put some younger guys in office, but still allow for wisdom. And get them home to, "obey the laws that they created."

[birdgirl73]

Also, Kiefboy, the fact that he's pro-abortion shows that he will NOT do what is necessary to get elected. Last time I checked, the majority of people are against abortion, not for it.

Public opinion polls right now still show that about 70% of Americans support abortion remaining legal, although of that percentage, generally about 50% of respondents want it to be legal only under certain circumstances, some of them very restrictive.

That 70%-pro and 30%-against abortion approval ratio has remained fairly steady over the years, but the percentages of people who want restrictions on legal availability have been steadily increasing. So of the 70% or so who want it to remain legal, that 50 - 51% group who want limitations is gradually growing.

It's a hugely controversial topic, of course, and I've always felt abortion legality should be determined by an actual vote instead of by our courts and legislators. That would settle it once and for all. Personally, I think abortion is an abominable thing. Anyone with a heart does. I wish people would consider adoption as the choice of first resort without fail. But as someone connected to the medical world, I know that making abortion illegal won't stop the procedure from occurring. It'll simply cause more maimings and harm when young women seek back-alley procedures, as was the case before 1973.

Obama is like most Democrats in that he wants abortion to remain safe, legal, and, ideally, rare.

[budzy malone]

Sorry bad news folks. I am the motherfuckin president. I also have been and always will be. They just keep changing my name and picture to fool all the gullible sheep out there. My advice. Stop following and be a leader yourself.
Someone asked about religion. Well Christianity is basically "boy meets girl, falls in love with girl. Marries the girl. Spends all his money on the girl. They live happily ever after!".
Muslim is basically a more discplined religion where you can have many wifes, but you can not look at their faces or ankles, they have to walk ten feet behind you at all times and 5 times a day you bend over on a small carpet and pray to the EASTSIDE of town. This will keep ALLAH from eating you when he gets mad.

[KiEfBoyjBm]

Yes, we have such a fabulous two-party system. As the former independent governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura has said, "it gives us 1 more choice than the communists had." As Americans we claim to have so much liberty, this must be exactly how the founding fathers envisioned what America might become. "It is like a store that only sells Coke and Pepsi. Two colas, one slightly sweeter than the other depending on your tastebuds." I want some Root Beer, Damn it. And yes I have realized that both parties are comprised mostly of crooks.

And yes I would support some type of referendum sealing the fate of abortion once and for all. The politicians aren't going to do anything about it.

this is the video in which I quoted Jesse Ventura above, it is Jesse and Kinky Friedman @ Texas A&M.

[Nylo]

Since we're on the topic of 3rd party systems, I recently just started digging up some old info on Ross Perot. I never really paid much attention to the guy. Looking back I'd love to see a candidate with this kind of drive today; for an '08 election it would be amazing to see someone rise to the challange the way he did. Campaigned with his own money, was put on the ballot by the people .

Sure he was a rich, insane billionare. But he was a rich, insane billionare with some pretty good ideas.

"The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river. "

[Hamlet]

I heard an in depth interview with Obama on NPR last Sunday. He impressed me. A very intelligent individual who talked frankly about himself, the issues, and what he believed. It was refreshing to hear someone speak their mind without any hint of some consultants coaching ringing in the undertones.

I'm glad he's in Government. I hope he stays there and I'm sure he will.