those pics are from a 'Joey Weed' Northern Lights/Cinderella99 clone I gave to a friend and med-user ... 'custom39' (who visits this forum now and then) dreamed up the idea of the 30-degree-angle floor ... LST works great, I've done that for years, but this angled floor is hassle-free, all you do is spin your plant around every couple of days, no fussing with strings, or bending stems ... either way improves lower growth, and LST does give you more time with your plants, which helps you spot potential problems before they happen ... :smokin: