Quote Originally Posted by S.P.Q.R.
They weren't heavy at all. Compare some of their shit to some of Behemoth's material from the same era. Compare it to ANY true metal band. It isn't shit. It's heavy pop music.

But there are things I will admit;
The drummer, is one of the most talented drummers I have ever seen. It's a shame he wastes his talent. The same could be said about the guitarist you mentioned.
Sry for the doble post but, I agree with you here mate, they arent heavy, at all, the majority of their sngs suck, they just have a few good pop numbers like ait and Bleed, My Plauue and the one where in the video its raining in the woods.

They are about as heavy as Queen, but still fun to listen to.