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08-29-2009, 11:59 PM #1
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Gravity flower hardener
Well I said who started the myth,i doubt the person you referred to started that myth but once they start they don't stop.i registered just reading but have been reading for awhile.
Originally Posted by irydyum
as for the amount of Thiamine inside is something around 0.02 %
But "guru's" are all but worthless,half of them say one thing and the other say the opposite (jorge and Ed for example) I've talked and gotten advice from a writer in high times,big deal?
I wasn't really even addressing the previous person but the bs spread by some,here for example Debunking the Myths of Bonsai | Knowledge of Bonsai Almost everything this page is simple wrong,it makes lots of quotes and puts up a front but everything it says is wrong,such as superthrive is snake oil,that it doesn't help transplanting(I have ran controlled experiments with transplanting so I KNOW it does) etc etc
another thing is that foliar feeding doesn't work,or only for micronutrients and won't increase yield.Since implementing a daily foliar feeding regiment my yield has doubled,the branches and budsites at least doubles,So thats another FUD of theirs.
Anyhow the creator of Gravity told me face to face that it can't be used as a foliar feed,So I don't know why he would lie on that as he stright up told me snow storm is better as a foliar feeder and cheaper.1 tsp per 5 gallon on the gravity also.
I've lived in the "emerald triangle" my entire life and know you can only learn from experience so any self respecting grower will take what i have to say with a grain of salt(as they would stinkyattics)
I still have lifelong growers around here that swear by pruning the shade leaves so I'm not going to change anyones mind once they get on a routine
but seriously take one plant and give it superthrive every time you water(drop per gal except at transplants use 1/4th teaspoon) and tell me it slows down flowering or decreases yield and then try and remain silent as people spread FUD all over about superthrivesetiamon Reviewed by setiamon on . Gravity flower hardener Is anyone familiar with this stuff? It was recommended to me but I have no idea what it is or what it does. "Flower hardener" sounds kind of scary to me. What does that mean exactly? Worth using? Thanks for any words of wisdom. :) Rating: 5
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08-19-2010, 07:17 AM #2
Junior Member
Gravity flower hardener
well - in my opinion this stuff is way overpriced and i dont understand the benefit. i mean it was like !25.00 before tax at my trusted place and im not sure how big it was but it was prob a half gallon. Then you have to worry about using the littlest bit too much or sure buds are too dense and WILL MOLD. MOLD is the WORST. I also grow 100% organic and was questioning myself this batch. i grow good shit and its all organic so it turned out good but i had to tie up all my main colas bc of weight in a bad way. its not worth is and over all my plants were shorter and less squat. I think something is not right w the flower hardener. Im selling my remaining fucking 80 dollars worth to anyone that will take it
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09-11-2010, 02:52 AM #3
Junior Member
Gravity flower hardener
Hello All; First Post Here;
I use 2 (1000w) HPS for every 10 girls in 2 aero tubes, baskets w hydroton, deep water constant feed to micro emitters from a 25 gal res. For 8 week girls (my F.I. indica hybrid) I used 20-30 ml of Bushmaster the week before flush (8-10 day flush) for only 24 hrs then change res back to normal bloom mix. The day before flush starts I use approx 20-30 ml of Gravity for 24 hrs then flush of course. I keep a constant ppm and ph while the res is chk'd twice a day everyday, very time consuming considering I dont have a controlled doser. For earlier finishers, leggier indica like ak48 or a sativa the bushmaster would be used earlier however from what ive learned the gravity should only be used the day before flush for a very limited time. There is the obvious concern over burning your plants however I have heard from several people in the Denver grow community that Gravity has been deemed the cause of "headaches" to people who consume, even in the cases where minimum amounts were used, like my methods.
Apparently it has been discontinued from manufacture however several stores still have stock in the area and I used it and loved it, I never had headaches from it. I will probably discontinue the use of the product when I find a suitable substitute. Anybody know of any suitable alternatives??? It can cause mold in the interior of your flowers if you arent on top of your environment or you let the plant finish longer than the strain calls for. Gravity does help to increase resin production along with wieght and density when used in conjunction with Bushmaster (I havent used Purple Maxx yet but I know its been replaced by Snowstorm and will probably give it a try).
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09-11-2010, 10:17 AM #4
Senior Member
Gravity flower hardener
Look into Flower Dragon.
Originally Posted by Edubbl79
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11-05-2010, 05:26 PM #5
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Gravity flower hardener
I have just used this, and am finally able to contribute to this thread. Methods are as follows:
Used at the rate of 1mL/gal, in pH'd molasses water, on soil-plants. Lights were raised 9" as well. I stopped feeding nutrients to soil 1 week prior. I should also note that my plants had NO fan leaves at the time of application due to prior pH problems; plants were strictly composed of healthy flowers and stalk/stem. Flushed as part of the pre-harvest flush 72 hours post-application
The results were undoubtedly excellent. Flowers have thickened quite a bit compared to controls (grown in same environment, nutrient sched. etc...). Trichomes became greater in number and size. The increase in density appears to be due to an increase in resin production, as opposed to only water mass. My yield was enhanced by a rate of 1.5X, compared to flowers of the same size of controls. Plants were stressed minimally throughout this entire process due to recovery from pH issues.if you\'re going through hell, keep going
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12-04-2010, 04:50 PM #6
Junior Member
Gravity flower hardener
I grow in a hempy bucket and I use it day 50-53. 3ml/gallon with a pH 6 water and minimal flowering nuts. Then it gets flushed for about 2-3 days and then no water for 2-3 days so the plant dries some on the vine before harvest. I also use overdrive from day 42-53. I mix up a new batch daily as it 'foams' if left in the rez.
Worth the $ and time. I definitely notice a yield and density increase, especially on leafier type flowerers. Never noticed a taste difference. Never noticed headaches. Ive never moved the lights up but I have a light mover and I usually stretch out the move distance on that last week, perhaps that helps.
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