Quote Originally Posted by microwavechips
has anyone seen it on the news? There is a part in the house where a kid in a classroom shoots everyone because "heavy metal is telling him to" then he shoots himself

im not trying to attack christianity or anyones beliefs but really man what the fuck? how sick in the head do u have to be to do sumthing like that
bro, i'm a christian, and please ATTACK anything that blatantly stupid; not everyone who says they're a christian is acting like jesus (ummm.....mr president........ummm......TBN.....ummmmm the crusades.....umm....on and on and on i'm afraid); and what you just mentioned makes me want to go listen to heavy metal...............................uhhhh i mean "shoot myself"

peace out

Quote Originally Posted by moorephened
.......Like all Christian traditions Halloween is a mixture a pagan ritual and Christian theology
well all "major" holidays that is; REAL christian traditions like communion are not so; well i'm sure someone could draw a parallell with some pagan rituals....but i digress....


you're right on the money about todays "christian" holidays like christmas (which is one time of year that we practically KNOW is not when jesus was actually born) (the whole tree thing goes with the yule log, you burn the log and then in the morning there's a tree, it's some pagan god's "rebirth...), easter ("asch-tar" pagan godess of fertility (ever wonder why it's a bunny???? i.e. fertile) which got mixed with the celebration of jesus' resurection, and of course there are others that developed over time

if i remember right constantine did a lot of this making christianity as the world religion and COMBINING pagan rituals with christian to create a stable national religion (amalgamation)


....and on and on....but yeah these standard days that are celebrated as "christian" religions are pretty far from it these days.....a lot of christians will just celebrate them anyway without knowing what the symbols mean, trees, easter eggs and such........and i need to stop talking

Quote Originally Posted by kknight
this gives them something to do on Halloween like everyone else is doing.
yup



i like to just disregard all holidays

Quote Originally Posted by graph
and you're against christians for being different?

No offense, but calling out all christians because of something like the crusades is like saying all white people must be gay and eat people because of dahmer. You're being just as closed-minded to christians as you accuse them of being, and that's just the truth. You attack christians for attacking subjects, what makes you so much more enlightened than them?

Just because someone believes different than you doesn't make them wrong, but treating their belief as wrong or inferior DEFINITELY makes you wrong. If you didn't want to see what christians believe, then you probably didn't have any business being in there. That's like going to church and getting pissed at the guy in the front talking about God for an hour. You had to see it coming.
i'm a bible believing christian, and i have to say i can definitely understand his anger; it really makes me furious what is done in the name of god or religion, or christianity

but yes, everyone is different. i'm not saying that SQ is right about his blanket statements, but i feel myself pissed off about the same things he's talking about...