burns/amputations / phantom pain

[xcrispi]

hey folks ,
i'm a newcomer to your site and am curious if there are other medicinal users due to severe burns , or phantom pain due to amputations ?
i'm in michigan and am lucky enuf to be in 1 of only 4 cities that overlooks medicinal use as long as you have a script / or letter from a dr.
i'm an 85% 3rd. degree burn survivor , therefore the xcrispi bit , and am missing numerous fingers n toes due to my injuries from an auto related accident . kidney probs. prohibit the longterm use of script narcotics . i found that the use of m/j really helps w/ electric/shooting pain , and also phantom pain from screwy nerve endings due to amputations .
anybody else in the same boat out there ?
peace :thumbsup:

xcrispi Reviewed by xcrispi on 10-18-2006. burns/amputations / phantom pain hey folks , i'm a newcomer to your site and am curious if there are other medicinal users due to severe burns , or phantom pain due to amputations ? i'm in michigan and am lucky enuf to be in 1 of only 4 cities that overlooks medicinal use as long as you have a script / or letter from a dr. i'm an 85% 3rd. degree burn survivor , therefore the xcrispi bit , and am missing numerous fingers n toes due to my injuries from an auto related accident . kidney probs. prohibit the Rating: 5

[birdgirl73]

Oh, heaven bless your heart, Xcrispi. You had 85% coverage 3rd degree? Do you know how lucky you are to have survived that? I'm sure there've been plenty of times during that recovery you wished you hadn't, but I'm impressed you did. I'm so sorry you had to endure that agony. So sorry you faced such a tragedy.

I apologize for answering your Q with a different topic question. But I know a little about burns as a former paramedic. Yours weren't burn ratios a lot of people recover from.

I'm not a burn victim or an amputee. But I'm in my first year of med school now and am eager to hear if others have had success with cannabis and phantom pains/nerve pain. My guess is they have. We used weed to help my sister, who has end-stage ovarian cancer, this past summer, and it eased some nerve pain she had in her spine and head and also helped her appetite and nausea during her last rounds of chemo. That's lovely you're in a town that overlooks medicinal use. I wish more were like that.

Take care, Xc, and welcome to the boards.

[xcrispi]

hey birdgirl73 ,
god bless . your right 1 in 10,000 chace of making it . i'm really stubborn ppl. lol . 1 time in my life it's worked to my benefit . no regrets w/ surviving . more often i've wondered why after being in hospital for 13 mos. n seeing so many others w/ far less % rate not make it . no pity party here , no time , lifes to short . ppl. gotta adapt or become extinct . :thumbsup:
sorry to hear about your sister , i'll say a prayer . G/B
the ppl. in our community petitioned to have medicinal m/j put in front of our city council to vote on n they whinned it was 2 contriversial . so we got enough signatures for it to be put on the ballot to let the ppl. decide and it passed by 60% . 1 small win for the lil guy .:dance:
peace all
looking forward to hearing more on this subject

[someuser]

Hey man,

Just wanted to say you have a really positive outlook and I respect that. I had a much much smalled 'incident" physically happen to me and I let it destroy 6yrs of my life. Puts things in perspective.

[BaknBlake]

i know i found your thread a little late...im glad you still have a positive attitude...my cousin was in a auto accident where he was burnt over 90% of his body...he lost his dad in the fire as well...i get emotional just thinking about it...but hey man, we are lucky to be alive...if a burn is the worst thing that happens to me in my life...ill be happy...my prayers are with you..maybe we can talk on im or something of the sort... god bless

-blake

[oturbojoeo4o]

my budd got clipped on the freeway when he was on his bike and he all the nerve endings were servered in his left arm, and they could only connected a few...so hes stuck with a permanent sling...he has those shooting pains everynow and then, but hes a big jokester about it all, he uses the sling to hold his beer

but he does say that the shooting is relieved with a small amount of mj, he doesnt even have to be really high, in he hates the smell and doesnt like the profile people give him cuz he smokes.

just thought id throw in my 2 cents

[Nochowderforyou]

I get severe headaches from a skull fracture about 7yrs ago. I have perm. nerve damage in the side of my nose, and half of my upper lip. I got jumped by 3 people and they crushed in the right side of face. I had surgery to have it lifted out again. Since then my brain kind of got "re-wired" to say and now I got massive headaches, and my jaw tightens up. If I don't smoke for about 48hrs, it tightens up like a spring and talking/eating are out the question.

My buddy a few years ago suffered 3rd degree burns on about 30% of his body. A butane accident, and he had skin graphs and was in hopspital for several weeks. He can't even stay in the sun for prolonged periods of time. It's harsh shit.

Keep your head up. :thumbsup:

[xcrispi]

yep ,
were like vampires lol , no direct sunlight for any great period of time , i'm bad enuf i cant even sweat , no pores in skin so much scar tissue , have a heatstroke n shit . been 5 1/2 years now .
likewise w/ the chin up nochowder , man is about the most vicious animal i know , ppl. treat each other cruely .

[Storm Crow]

OK, so i'm building myself a medical marijuana note book (over 200 pages of medical abstracts) and from ccicnewsletter (HEAVY MMJ research) I got this. I know you guys already know this from personal experience, but having it said by the medical research community is also very good. You might want to print a copy for when your state finally allows MMJ and you go in to get your recommendation.

Effects of a Cannabinoid Agonist on Spinal Nociceptive Neurons in a Rodent Model of Neuropathic Pain

Liu, C. and J. M. Walker (2006). J Neurophysiol, Aug 30.



The effects of the synthetic cannabinoid WIN 55,212-2 on heat-evoked firing of spinal wide dynamic range (WDR) neurons were examined in a rodent model of neuropathic pain. Fifty-eight WDR neurons (1 cell/animal) were recorded from the ipsilateral spinal dorsal horns of rats with chronic constriction injury (CCI) and sham-operated controls. Relative to sham-operated controls, neurons recorded in CCI rats showed elevations in spontaneous firing, noxious heat-evoked responses, and after discharge firing as well as increases in receptive field size. WIN 55,212-2 (0.0625 mg/kg, 0.125 mg/kg, 0.25 mg/kg, i.v.) dose-dependently suppressed heat-evoked activity and decreased the receptive field areas of dorsal horn WDR neurons in both nerve injured and control rats with a greater inhibition in CCI rats. At the dose of 0.125 mg/kg, i.v., WIN 55,212-2 reversed the hyperalgesia produced by nerve injury. The effect of i.v. administration of WIN 55,212-2 appears to be centrally mediated because administration of the drug directly to the ligated nerve did not suppress the heat-evoked neuronal activity in CCI rats. Pretreatment with the cannabinoid CB1 receptor antagonists SR141716A or AM251, but not the CB2 antagonist SR144528, blocked the effects. These results provide a neural basis for reports of potent suppression by cannabinoids of the abnormal sensory responses that result from nerve injury.

http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php?...#_Toc148951557


My nerve problems stem from a childhood head injury- kid tried to kill me with a hammer. Ended up with migraines and cluster headaches, a large, sometimes painful, scar in my scalp and a half dozen dents in my skull. Cannabis keeps the headaches away. I've been using it for 40 years. I'm "California legal". I can't even imagine what it would be like to have my scar all over my body. Even thinking about it makes me shudder! I wish you all the best of luck in life- it seems to me you've had your lifetime's worth of bad luck already.

[birdgirl73]

Storm Crow, I love it that you're compiling that notebook. Think there'll ever be a place online where that sort of thing might be amassed in a single place, or are NORML's links the closest we have to that now?

Besides having all the info in one place, what do you plan to do with the compiled information? I ask because I think you would make a very good lobbyist on behalf of medical MJ for states where that's not yet been allowed.

I also want to ask you this. As research goes, my impression has been that there's far too little of it going on in the U.S. And the more I think about this, the more I feel completely certain that Big Pharma will work very hard to block advancements in this area. What do you believe are the most viable options toward getting more research and more respect for the healing potential of cannabis/cannabinoids? I somehow want more organized effort, yet as a pipsqueak first year med student, I don't really know where to begin. But I want to do something somehow to help. I always enjoy reading what you have to say, and you're like me in that you rarely are without strong opinions.