Quote Originally Posted by Vancefish
Hmmm?? Have you ever read either document?...

...It says all men are created equal, and given inalienable rights by God.
That's what it says. The framers were slaveholders themselves, so blacks obviously were not included. They also had indentured servants, so poor folks were obviously not included. Women couldn't vote and "home correction" was still considered acceptable behavior by society, so women obviously were not included. Do I really need to go into how completely screwed over the indians were? Our founding fathers' words say all men are created equal. Their actions said different.

As George Carlin put it, "they were embarrassingly full of shit."