Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

[Pass That Shit]

I really don't understand how you bible believers can support such things. The bible is completely repulsive, and sexist. It supports killing people. It supports the oppression of women. It supports slavery. If you have read the bible, you know this. So tell me, why would you support such a thing?

So let me get this straight, you are righteous and God is evil right? This is another common trend with unbelievers. They feel that they are a "better person" than God. So tell me, why do you think women support the bible, including my wife? :wtf:

[Quantummist]

Do you think the world is 6000 years old because it's what other religions preach to you or because you read it in the bible? Genesis is a very large book to read, and I have read it and didn't come to the same conclusion as you, so can you be more specific on the text that leads you to believe the earth is 6k years? I don't think it's fair to say that if we believe the bible we MUST beleive the earth is 6k years old and then you DON'T provide the text that says this. It sounds to me, that this belief you have about the earth being 6000 years old is your personal reasoning about the bible. I don't think you should listen to anyone about the bible, including me. Read it for yourself. Then accuse what's written in it, don't accuse the bible for something it DOESN'T say. :jointsmile:

And I'm not gonna go back and forth with you about this point any longer cause you're entitled to your opinion. But I was curious to what your source was, and now I know. Peace! :jointsmile:

Dude.. I think you need to focus on your reading comprehension issues.. I never said I Believe in anything.. I Know the earth is Millions of years old. What my point was is that those that say the the Bible is THE Word Of God cannot then Interpret those words to fit the observed universe. In Genisis if you add up the who begot whos and how long they lived and so forth you end up with 6000 years.. ITS NOT ME saying such.. its those that BELIEVE that the bible IS the Word of God and since the genealogy Says that it all began 6000 years ago those that BELIEVE it is the Word of God Say It must be so. ANd in Fact if you do the maths in Genisis it does come to aproximatly 6000 years since Adam and Eve poped up from the dirt.

If you say at any point the words in the Bible are the word of god then you MUST take every word at face value. If you say No "I can read it to mean" Then You and anyone can make it mean anything you like but ( Back to Logic) If you say you, just a man, can take its words to mean other than as written then It has to be either NOT the word of god or You are placing Your version of it Over Gods Word.

If you read the words" 7 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. " Then God looks like you and me if the bible is his word.. So you cant then now say well god is the unseen energy of the universe or some other version of what god is because it fits the known scientific dogma.

If you take it as the Word of God then God is a physical entity.. Theres many , many passages that say one thing and the Believers then interpret it to Mean something other than as written ..when you do that its logical to state its either Not the word of god or the person is over ruling gods word.

Last time I will address this also as to believe in anything is to throw logic to the wind.

As I said before if believing causes one to do good, help thy fellow man, love thy neighbor, in other words to act in Honor ( Honor is doing the right thing when no one is looking) then its great.. But History shows that most the time it ends in tragedy because men fall to the My Gods better than Your God mind set and people die in the millions..

[Quantummist]

So let me get this straight, you are righteous and God is evil right? This is another common trend with unbelievers. They feel that they are a "better person" than God. So tell me, why do you think women support the bible, including my wife? :wtf:

Maybe Ignorance is Bliss....

[Hardcore Newbie]

So let me get this straight, you are righteous and God is evil right? This is another common trend with unbelievers. They feel that they are a "better person" than God. So tell me, why do you think women support the bible, including my wife? :wtf:

Most people don't follow it to the degree that the Bible implies. People just ignore, misinterpret, reinterpret the parts that they don't like, or rationalize the views saying "this was only for that period, it doesn't matter this day in age". Nobody lets their children die because their children have cursed them.

And yeah, I do believe I am more moral than the God that the Bible depicts.

[Hardcore Newbie]

Dude.. I think you need to focus on your reading comprehension issues.. I never said I Believe in anything.. I Know the earth is Millions of years old.

This is just a bad as saying that you believe, in my opinion at least. Again, the cliche of a flat world shows that we only know as far as we can see. When new information comes, it changes what we "know".

[Quantummist]

This is just a bad as saying that you believe, in my opinion at least. Again, the cliche of a flat world shows that we only know as far as we can see. When new information comes, it changes what we "know".

BIG difference.. I KNOW because we have massive volumes of Evidence that has been tested and proven over hundreds of years.. To Know and to believe are two totally different things

[Pass That Shit]

Dude.. I think you need to focus on your reading comprehension issues.. I never said I Believe in anything.. I Know the earth is Millions of years old. What my point was is that those that say the the Bible is THE Word Of God cannot then Interpret those words to fit the observed universe. In Genisis if you add up the who begot whos and how long they lived and so forth you end up with 6000 years.. ITS NOT ME saying such.. its those that BELIEVE that the bible IS the Word of God and since the genealogy Says that it all began 6000 years ago those that BELIEVE it is the Word of God Say It must be so. ANd in Fact if you do the maths in Genisis it does come to aproximatly 6000 years since Adam and Eve poped up from the dirt.

If you say at any point the words in the Bible are the word of god then you MUST take every word at face value. If you say No "I can read it to mean" Then You and anyone can make it mean anything you like but ( Back to Logic) If you say you, just a man, can take its words to mean other than as written then It has to be either NOT the word of god or You are placing Your version of it Over Gods Word.

If you read the words" 7 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. " Then God looks like you and me if the bible is his word.. So you cant then now say well god is the unseen energy of the universe or some other version of what god is because it fits the known scientific dogma.

If you take it as the Word of God then God is a physical entity.. Theres many , many passages that say one thing and the Believers then interpret it to Mean something other than as written ..when you do that its logical to state its either Not the word of god or the person is over ruling gods word.

Last time I will address this also as to believe in anything is to throw logic to the wind.

As I said before if believing causes one to do good, help thy fellow man, love thy neighbor, in other words to act in Honor ( Honor is doing the right thing when no one is looking) then its great.. But History shows that most the time it ends in tragedy because men fall to the My Gods better than Your God mind set and people die in the millions..

The age of Adam and Eve and the age of the earth are two different conversations.
You never mentioned Adam and Eve, you said the earth was 6000 years old.
It's clear that you can't back up your original comment so now you're jumping around to other things.

Even though the bible appears to contradict itself in just about every subject, it really doesn't. God is a Spirit. But we know that Jesus is the image of the invisible God. The Lord is that Spirit. Jesus is Lord. So God made man in his own image. Jesus created all things. Yes, God is a man. It's clear right from the creation in Genesis, that God spoke, so he has a mouth. God formed man of the dust of the ground, so he has hands and fingers. God has feelings so he has a heart. God can see with his eyes and hear with his ears. Yes, we were made in the image of God. God is a man. Jesus is God. Jesus is eternal. The Son of God is without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life. Jesus is God himself.

Doesn't every seed come from itself? Why is it logical to think that we are exempt from this law in nature? Why is it so hard to believe that we came from a man? Doesn't weed come from weed? Don't you need a Cannabis plant to get Cannabis seeds? What makes you think that we are any different? Every seed comes from itself, and we are not excluded from this. God is a man, that's why there is men on the earth. Plain and simple!

I hear people often say that life is the result of a miracle chance of one in a million. You would have to say that this one in a million chance took place in everything alive cause one thing did not come from the other. Another words, what does the Cannabis plant have to do with man being on the earth? We always debate about how man got here, but how did the plant get here? Was that a one in a million chance as well? We can go on and on about everything that exists and debate how it all got here. :jointsmile:

[Pass That Shit]

Most people don't follow it to the degree that the Bible implies. People just ignore, misinterpret, reinterpret the parts that they don't like, or rationalize the views saying "this was only for that period, it doesn't matter this day in age". Nobody lets their children die because their children have cursed them.

And yeah, I do believe I am more moral than the God that the Bible depicts.

I won't even touch this one, that's on you!
Our words will either justify or condemn us!

[Quantummist]

The age of Adam and Eve and the age of the earth are two different conversations.
You never mentioned Adam and Eve, you said the earth was 6000 years old.

SO ..you think the bible is Gods Nuanced Thought.. Not The Word of God.. If He made A & E on the 6th day.. (Ok.. 6000 years plus or minus 7 days) Now if you wana say oh heck ..Gods Days are 10,000 years in length then YOU are saying None of the bible can be taken as written.. kinda blasphemy don't ya think...

It's clear that you can't back up your original comment so now you're jumping around to other things.

It clear you didn't do the math.. Have you actually read the bible ? or just bits and pieces .. Its the Word Of God and ifn I Believed that, I would read every word 1000 times over .. I'm not gona go through each Begot and do the math for you.. I have by the way done just that in the past.. I backed up my comment clearly by pointing you to Genesis and telling you to READ it and do the Math and consider EACH WORD is Gods Word so you can't add your own interpretations ..if you do then YOU are superseding GODS WORD..

Even though the bible appears to contradict itself in just about every subject, it really doesn't. God is a Spirit.

So you say but cannot validate.....

I say..No such thing as Spirits, ghost, goblin, and big foots... Well maybe bigfoot.. of them at least we have tracks...

But we know that Jesus is the image of the invisible God.

No WE don't Know any such thing

The Lord is that Spirit. Jesus is Lord.

So you say but cannot validate.....

So God made man in his own image.

So you say but cannot validate.....

Jesus created all things. Yes, God is a man. It's clear right from the creation in Genesis, that God spoke, so he has a mouth. God formed man of the dust of the ground, so he has hands and fingers. God has feelings so he has a heart.

And you asked earler WHY Unbelievers think believers are Illogical.. Well There ya go.... and by the way.. Feelings come from a organ a bit higher up.. The heart pumps blood..

God can see with his eyes and hear with his ears. Yes, we were made in the image of God. God is a man. Jesus is God. Jesus is eternal. The Son of God is without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life. Jesus is God himself.

So you say but cannot validate.....

Doesn't every seed come from itself?

uhhh... no.. I might just cross a Hops plant with a hemp plant then genetically mutate it with colcasine then let it grow wild for 1 billions years and it may very well become an Asexual propagating crawly thing with 10 eyes and a fussy tail...

Why is it logical to think that we are exempt from this law in nature?

Cause its not been upheld by the supreme court.. oh and because its NOT a law of Nature..

Why is it so hard to believe that we came from a man?

Its not... in a round about way.. through a woman...

Doesn't weed come from weed? Don't you need a Cannabis plant to get Cannabis seeds? What makes you think that we are any different? Every seed comes from itself, and we are not excluded from this. God is a man, that's why there is men on the earth. Plain and simple!

Plain and simple my left testicle.. Thats about the most irrational construct I've heard in a while.. You really don't understand Logic in its construct form do you..

I hear people often say that life is the result of a miracle chance of one in a million.

Then those that you have heard say such a thing do not understand Odds very well.. one in a million is far from a miracle.. 1 in 500 Billion is Far,Far from a Miracle.. Thats such a small number in this Universe as to be a Has to happen event

You would have to say that this one in a million chance took place in everything alive cause one thing did not come from the other.

Well ...Yes It Did.. All Life you see poking its head from the rocks, growing on the top of the mountain, walking down the street, swimming in the ocean, living in your belly ... came from the same micro organism .. That organism made all the Oxygen you are breathing right now. Well at least 98% of it.. A bit dropped in during the heavy bombardment period.. That organism became YOU , Me and the pot plant you just smoked...

Another words, what does the Cannabis plant have to do with man being on the earth?

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Because Your related to it...

We always debate about how man got here, but how did the plant get here?

They are both from the SAME Base organisim that branched into different life forms after 12 extinction events that re shuffled the DNA deck each time

Was that a one in a million chance as well?

No more like 1 in 500 billion or so.. Hate to burst your bubble but thats a very, very small number as the Universe goes...

We can go on and on about everything that exists and debate how it all got here. :jointsmile:

No Need to debate that which has a pretty good DNA trail that deleniates the variations that traces back to little simple 1 cell Things that were neither Plant nor Animal completely...

[Pass That Shit]

I'll sum it up with this. You are denying that Jesus Christ died, was buried and rose again from the dead. He was seen after his resurrection by many. When you can prove to me that all the different witnesses that have left their testimony of what happened are liars, I'll consider your view. But since you don't have a single trace of evidence to prove that all the testimonies are lies, I'll choose to believe that they were honest men and spoke the truth.

Just about everything you said is because you believe it, not because you can prove any of it. It never comes down to logic or proof. It always comes down to faith. Science is just like religion, there are many branches and they all disagree with each other. If it were about logic and proof, everyone would agree!

And by the way, when you feel love or hate, it comes from your heart not your brain. :jointsmile:
And I'm not referring to the blood pumping organ!