Quote Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
Good point. And being that everyone has a different definition of existence, God definately exists.
There's no debating that he exists to alot of people regardless if there's proof or not. :jointsmile:
Exactly my point. To the Believer he exists no matter the argument. Historically him, her or a hundred different variations has filled mans mind since he first looked up and said "WTF was That?"

So from that aspect he really does exist to those folks.

But then if I consider he, she, them are outside the 3 dimensional universe we live in, then by definition he cannot Exist for to exist from that prospective he, she, them must be made of physical stuff.

So to me, since I'm not a believer in Anything Ever, he cannot exist. Such is the curse of science. When one considers the concepts of evidence and proof important then you become jaded and the sweet bliss of easy answers such as "God Did It!" can't by had.

I, at times, wish I could Believe in an Almighty deity that had a shoulder to cry on and to let take the hard stuff off my shoulder. A Being that let me not worry about all I observe in the universe around me. This would give my great peace as I could stop trying to explore all around me I gaze at.

But I tend to think that the quest for knowledge is what man is on this tiny ball for in the first place. Thats the Evidence I have seen. The Proofs provided so far to verify that Evidence far outweigh the Proofs or even Evidence provided by those that Believe.

Q

"I Believe in Nothing, I Know, I Think I Know or I Do Not Know ... I Never Believe" Q