Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

[Pass That Shit]

God has feelings in his heart but no sin. We have the same feelings but we sin. That's the difference.
We are not perfect because of sin, not because of emotions. We had emotions prior to sinning. imp:

[Hardcore Newbie]

God has feelings in his heart but no sin. We have the same feelings but we sin. That's the difference.
We are not perfect because of sin, not because of emotions. We had emotions prior to sinning. imp:

How can God have no sin when he murders people, and commands the murder of people?

[Pass That Shit]

When someone is executed by death penalty, do you feel the government is committing a sin for their judgment towards the evil doer?
Do you feel they are sinning when they sentence an evil doer to life in prison? There is only ONE judge, his judgments are right and true.

[GraziLovesMary]

Well.... good thing to know there are so many all-knowing experts on the subject. I think this topic has gotten ridiculous enough for me.

[Hardcore Newbie]

When someone is executed by death penalty, do you feel the government is committing a sin for their judgment towards the evil doer?
Do you feel they are sinning when they sentence an evil doer to life in prison? There is only ONE judge, his judgments are right and true.

Well, I don't believe in "sin", I do believe some acts are immoral.

I also don't agree with the death penalty, as the death penalty is murder. I do agree with life in prison (isolation if need be) to prevent the murderer from murdering again.

I think we've been down this road before. My mindset is, if someone is willing to give out a punishment without giving the reason for the punishment, the punishment is unjust. From what I've read, God punishes immoral acts, but in many cases does not define the reason for the immorality.

I hope you can see why myself, and many others, cannot put faith into the bible. I disagree with many of the messages, and there are no ways to reconcile these disagreements. If someone were to make demands upon me the way that the Bible does (ie goverment) I'd question their motives. Why should I make an exception for the Bible? It doesn't make sense to.

Always fun talking to you

[Pass That Shit]

The beauty of it, is that everyone is entitled to believe in what we want, and by our words we will either be justified or condemned. :jointsmile:

[slipknotpsycho]

The beauty of it, is that everyone is entitled to believe in what we want, and by our words we will either be justified or condemned. :jointsmile:

we're entitled to believe what we want, but you say things like that that makes it seem like we (non believers) will be judged by the god you believe in for not believing....

[Pass That Shit]

Well.... good thing to know there are so many all-knowing experts on the subject. I think this topic has gotten ridiculous enough for me.

Yes there are. And you are one of them! :stoned:

[stinkyattic]

....things like that that makes it seem like we (non believers) will be judged by the god you believe in for not believing....

This is the stumbling block for me as well when I choose to enter or recuse myself from arguments of this sort. It's where the debate goes from 'let's discuss' to 'believe what you want but you are wrong, wait until God gets to tell you so Himself!'

[Pass That Shit]

Keep in mind that we are delivering a message that we believe to be true. :jointsmile:

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."